Interested in nuclear fission in my life

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the topic of nuclear fission, specifically focusing on the mechanisms of neutron production and the conditions necessary for fission to occur. Participants explore various aspects of fission, including the types of neutrons involved, the properties of radioactive materials, and methods for generating neutrons.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Derryck inquires about how neutrons are fired and expresses a desire to understand nuclear fission better.
  • Some participants suggest that fission bombs utilize radioactive materials to produce neutrons, which initiate a chain reaction.
  • Derryck questions whether all radioactive materials emit neutrons and whether only slow-moving neutrons are effective for fission.
  • Bob S clarifies that not all radioactive materials emit neutrons and confirms that slow ("thermal") neutrons are generally more effective for fission reactions.
  • Another participant mentions that in fission bombs, fast neutrons are used due to time constraints, while reactors utilize moderators to slow down neutrons.
  • Derryck asks about the reaction between alpha particles and beryllium that produces neutrons, seeking clarification on the nature of alpha particles and the choice of beryllium.
  • A participant suggests that a research reactor is the best way to produce neutrons and mentions alternative methods involving alpha emitters and low Z materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the properties of radioactive materials and the effectiveness of neutron types for fission. There is no consensus on the broader implications of these properties, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding some of the technical details.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the definitions of terms like "radioactive" and "non-radioactive," as well as the specific conditions under which neutrons are produced and utilized in fission processes.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring nuclear physics, particularly those curious about the mechanisms of fission and neutron production.

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Hello, I have been really interested in nuclear fission in my life, however, have not studied anything solid in the field. I have, however, read a little about it.

Basically, I know that in order for fission to take place, a neurton needs to collide with a large, dense nucleus. What I do not know is, how do we fire a neutron?

If anyone can help me, it would be greatly appreciated.

PS: I am not a terrorist or anything of the sort, I just would like to understand the subject fully, so that I can ponder over it in my free time...

Thanks

Derryck
 
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Fission bombs include a small amount of radioactive material which produces neutrons. The chain reaction then takes over.
 


okay,so basically all radioactive materials emit neutrons. I have also heard that only slow moving neutrons are effective for fission. Is this true?

I have also heard that lead is the heaviest non-radioactive element. Does this mean that the heavier an element is, the more likely it is to be radio-active? More over, basically anything heavier than lead has to be radioactive?

Thanks

Derryck
 


derryck1234 said:
okay,so basically all radioactive materials emit neutrons. I have also heard that only slow moving neutrons are effective for fission. Is this true?
Actually not. Radioactive sources usually emit only betas (electrons), positrons, gammas, X-rays, and alpha particles (plus neutrinos). Mixing an alpha particle source, e.g., polonium or plutonium, with beryllium will produce neutrons.

It is true that slow ("thermal") neutrons are best for most fission reactions.

Bob S
 


derryck1234 said:
okay,so basically all radioactive materials emit neutrons. I have also heard that only slow moving neutrons are effective for fission. Is this true?

I have also heard that lead is the heaviest non-radioactive element. Does this mean that the heavier an element is, the more likely it is to be radio-active? More over, basically anything heavier than lead has to be radioactive?

Thanks

Derryck

For bombs there is not enough time for the neutrons to slow down, so they rely on fast neutron fission. In reactors, the neutrons are slowed down by the moderator, typically water.

Radioactivity is a nuclide property, not an element property. It is true that lead is the element with the highest atomic number that has non-radioactive isotopes.
Until fairly recently it was thought that bismuth had a non-radioactive isotope.
"Bi-209 has been known as stable nuclide. But, alpha decay of Bi-209 with a half life of 2*10^19 years was found, recently."
 


Ok, thanks. So basically, we discovered that mixing an alpha particle with beryllium creates a reaction which emits neutrons?

Firstly, what is an alpha particle? Secondly, why beryllium?

PS: I would like to read up on the history of the atomic bomb, or rather, fission. Could you suggest any good texts?

Thanks

Derryck
 


Derryck,

If you are really interested in neutrons and fission, it might be cliche to say but, Google is your friend.

Try googling: "alpha particle" for instance and you'll quickly find out what it is. The first entry is currently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_particle

which does a reasonable job explaining what an alpha particle is.

You can ask questions here and someone might be kind enough to answer, but you'll be wasting their time if it is a common question you could have answered in 1 minute of googling. If you haven't read these:

http://www.gerv.net/hacking/how-to-ask-good-questions/
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

you will find them helpful.

There are lots of good resources on the net that you should be aware of. Wikipedia is a good starting point, but the best place for learning basics is:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
 


Well, the best way to 'fire' a neutron is to get your hands on a fancy research reactor. These things are designed to get neutrons out of them. Take a look at the SNS in Oakridge; that's the biggest one.Now if you don't have a multi million dollar you can use a low Z material bombarded by an alpha emitter (eg AmBe). This process knocks neotrons free.
 

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