History Interesting anecdotes in the history of physics?

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The discussion highlights intriguing anecdotes from the history of physics, emphasizing the personal lives and quirks of renowned physicists. One notable story involves Erwin Schrödinger, who developed his wave equation while on holiday with a mistress, a detail confirmed in his biography. The conversation also touches on the lesser-known aspects of Schrödinger's relationships, which have led to universities renaming facilities named after him due to controversies. Other anecdotes shared include humorous interactions among physicists like Heisenberg and the playful origins of significant scientific achievements, such as a group of physicists making predictions about Planck's constant on napkins during a celebratory gathering. Overall, these stories illustrate the blend of personal and professional lives that shaped the field of physics.
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Maxwell was lecturing and, seeing a student dozing off, awakened him, asking “Young man, what is electricity?” “I'm terribly sorry, sir,” the student replied, “I knew the answer but I have forgotten it.” Maxwell's response to the class was, “Gentlemen, you have just witnessed the greatest tragedy in the history of science. The one person who knew what electricity is has forgotten it”
Even today, the words of the French mathematician Henri Poincaré (1854–1912) are reflective of our present knowledge of the nature of electricity: ‘One of the French scientists who has probed Maxwell's work the most deeply said to me one day, “I understand everything in this book [Maxwells' Treatise] except what is meant by a charged sphere”’
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2017.0448
 
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  • #152
On Rabi's protégé:

One day, Isidor Rabi was reading the EPR paper and this happened:
I was reading the paper, and my way of reading a paper was to bring in a student and explain it to him. In this case the student was Lloyd Motz, who’s now a professor of astronomy at Columbia. We were arguing about something, and after a while Motz says there was someone waiting outside the office, and asked if he could bring him in. He brought in this kid. So I told him to sit down someplace, and he sat down. Motz and I were arguing, and this kid pipes up and settles the argument by the use of the completeness theorem. And I said,
Who the hell is this?
Well, it turned out he was a sophomore at City College, and he was doing very badly — flunking his courses, not in physics, but doing very badly. I talked to him for a while and was deeply impressed. He had already written a paper on quantum electrodynamics. So I asked him if he wanted to transfer, and he said yes. He gave me a transcript, and I looked at it. He was failing — English, and just about everything else. He spoke well. I said,
What's the matter with you? You're flunking English. You speak well, and you sound like an educated person.
He said,
I have no time to do the themes.
The kid was 16-years-old Julian Schwinger.
I tried to get him admitted to Columbia on a scholarship. I saw the director of admissions. He looked at the transcript and said,
A scholarship?
He wouldn't even admit him. Well, Hans Bethe was passing through, and I asked him if he would read Schwinger's paper. He read it and thought well of it. So I asked Bethe to write me a letter. He did. And, armed with this letter, I got Schwinger admitted. He entered Columbia as a junior and actually made Phi Beta Kappa. He turned over a new leaf.

Rabi about Schwinger's habits
At five o'clock, when everybody was leaving, you'd see Schwinger coming in. [I was once told that people would leave unsolved problems on their desks and blackboards, and find when they returned the next morning that Schwinger had solved them.] The problems he solved were just fantastic. He lectured twice a week on his current work. As soon as Schwinger would make an advance, guys all around — Dicke and Ed Purcell would invent things like mad. All sorts of things.
From Jeremy Bernstein, Experiencing Science. See also post #68.
 
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  • #153
Henry A. Rowland is known for his pioneering work on the manufacture of high quality diffraction gratings. A less known experiment of his is the demonstration that a mechanically rotating charged disk produces a magnetic field, equivalent to that of a current in a similarly shaped flat coil.

Maxwell wrote a poem that begins with a shoutout to Rowland:

The mounted disk of ebonite
Has whirled before, nor whirled in vain;
Rowland of Troy, that doughty knight,
Convection currents did obtain
In such a disk, of power to wheedle,
From its loved North the subtle needle.

’Twas when Sir Rowland, as a stage
From Troy to Baltimore, took rest
In Berlin, there old Archimage,
Armed him to follow up this quest;
Right glad to find himself possessor
Of the irrepressible Professor.

One of his graduate students was Edwin Hall, who discovered the Hall effect under Rowland's guidance.
 
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That is very interesting! In addition to a flat disk, I wonder if a convex-planar, charged disk was tried? Or a concave transmitting surface? Or if they tried a charged, transmitting surface other than flat? If the magnetic field could be focused? Maybe that's been tried and known, and I am just ignorant of it too.
 
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difalcojr said:
That is very interesting! In addition to a flat disk, I wonder if a convex-planar, charged disk was tried? Or a concave transmitting surface? Or if they tried a charged, transmitting surface other than flat? If the magnetic field could be focused? Maybe that's been tried and known, and I am just ignorant of it too.
This is a calculation that is often done in undergraduate physics. Maybe open a new thread about it, it might not fit this one....
 
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Shoes incident:

I found that Wikipedia has a couple of links to Julian Schwinger's "shoes incident". The story goes as so:

Steven Weinberg went to Harvard to take the position that was previously filled by Julien Schwinger after he left for UCLA. Schwinger had left a pair of shoes in his office. Sheldon Glashow made the joke that "they were there to see if Steve could fill them!"

Weinberg vs Schwinger

One day Schwinger came back to Harvard for the defense of his last Harvard student. Weinberg and Helen Quinn were also in the jury. The student was presenting his work on Schwinger's source theory (an alternative to quantum field theory). Weinberg challenged the student, arguing that his calculation could have been done using the usual methods. Schwinger responded back and the debate between the two went on for half an hour!

According to Quinn:
Steve argued that the best theory was one that was so well defined that it could be tested and possibly falsified by experiment, while Julian argued that the best theory was so flexible that it could evolve to accommodate new results. In other words, they were not quite talking the same language. What Julian meant by a new theory was a new formalism, whereas to Steve it meant a new specific instantiation of an already well-developed formalism. But it was fascinating to hear them argue about it.
the student was eventually allowed to continue.

From Weinberg's Physics Today obituary.
 
  • #157
Gamow on the Soviet bullies

George Gamow says about Igor Tamm:
Here is a story told to me by one of my friends who was at that time a young professor of physics in Odessa. His name was Igor Tamm (Nobel Prize laureate in Physics, 1958). Once when he arrived in a neighbouring village, at the period when Odessa was occupied by the Reds, and was negotiating with a villager as to how many chickens he could get for half a dozen silver spoons, the village was captured by one of the Makhno bands, who were roaming the country, harassing the Reds. Seeing his city clothes (or what was left of them), the capturers brought him to the Ataman, a bearded fellow in a tall black fur hat with machine-gun cartridge ribbons crossed on his broad chest and a couple of hand grenades hanging on the belt.
You son-of-a-XXX, you Communistic agitator, undermining our mother Ukraine! The punishment is death.
But no, I am a professor at the University of Odessa and have come here only to get some food.
answered Tamm.
Rubbish! What kind of professor are you?
retorted the leader.
I teach mathematics.
Mathematics? All right! Then give me an estimate of the error one makes by cutting off Maclaurin’s series at the ##n##-th term. Do this and you will go free. Fail, and you will be shot!
said the Ataman. Tamm could not believe his ears, since this problem belongs to a rather special branch of higher mathematics. With a shaking hand, and under the muzzle of the gun, he managed to work out the solution and handed it to the Ataman.
Correct! Now I see that you really are a professor. Go home!
said the Ataman.

Who was this man? No one will ever know. If he was not killed later on, he may well be lecturing now on higher mathematics in some Ukrainian university.
 
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  • #158
In 1934, Enrico Fermi wrote a theoretical paper that was refused by Nature because it "it contained speculations too remote from reality to be of interest to the reader". Fermi had to publish his theory in other languages (Il Nuovo Cimento and Zeitschrift für Physik). It was his paper on Fermi theory, the first paper that explained beta decay and introduced the weak interaction.
 
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The Alpher–Bethe–Gamow paper (sources wiki and https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200804/physicshistory.cfm)

I don't think this one has been listed yet.

Created by Ralph Alpher, a then physics PhD student, advisors George Gamow and Hans Bethe. The work, which would become the subject of Alpher's PhD dissertation, argued that the Big Bang would create hydrogen, helium and heavier elements in the correct proportions to explain their abundance in the early universe. While the original theory neglected a number of processes important to the formation of heavy elements, subsequent developments showed that Big Bang nucleosynthesis is consistent with the observed constraints on all primordial elements.

Gamow humorously decided to add the name of his friend, the eminent physicist Hans Bethe, to this paper in order to create the whimsical author list of Alpher, Bethe, Gamow, a play on the Greek letters α, β, and γ (alpha, beta, gamma).

The results of these calculations were first announced in a letter to The Physical Review, April 1, 1948. This was signed Alpher, Bethe, and Gamow, and is often referred to as the 'alphabetical article'.

There was, however, a rumor that later, when the alpha, beta, gamma theory went temporarily on the rocks, Dr. Bethe seriously considered changing his name to Zacharias.

Alpher, at the time only a graduate student, was generally dismayed by the inclusion of Bethe's name on this paper. He felt that the inclusion of another eminent physicist would overshadow his personal contribution to this work and prevent him from receiving proper recognition for such an important discovery.

Alpher was awarded his PhD, but his 15 minutes of fame soon ended. After finishing his PhD, he and Robert Herman (who resisted Gamow’s efforts to get him to change his name to Delter) continued work on the early universe. That research led them to predict the cosmic microwave background, but their prediction was ignored, and they were not given credit when the CMB was discovered in 1964. Alpher later became a researcher at General Electric. Gamow went on to study other topics as well, dabbling in the chemistry of DNA. Alpher died in 2007, shortly after receiving the National Medal of Science.
 
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I always thought it exceptionally unfair that Alpher and Gamow didn't get the Nobel for the Big Bang prediction while the two experimentalists who got lucky did. According to Richard Feynman the awarding of the Nobel is largely political.
 
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The following concerns a question in a physics degree exam at the University of Copenhagen: "Describe how to determine the height of a skyscraper using a barometer."

One student replied, "You tie a long piece of string to the neck of the barometer, then lower the barometer from the roof of the skyscraper to the ground. The length of the string plus the length of the barometer will equal the height of the building."

This highly original answer so incensed the instructor that the student was failed. The student appealed on the grounds that his answer was indisputably correct and the university appointed an independent arbiter to decide the case. The arbiter judged that answer was indeed correct, but did not display knowledge of physics. To resolve the problem it was decided to call the student in and allow him six minutes in which to provide a verbal answer, which showed at least a minimal familiarity the principles of physics.

For five minutes the student sat in silence, forehead creased in thought. The arbiter reminded him that time was running out, to which the student replied that he had several extremely relevant answers, but couldn't make up his mind which to use.

On being advised to hurry up the student replied as follows,
"Firstly, you could take the barometer up to the roof of the skyscraper, drop it over the edge, and measure the time it takes to reach the ground. The height of the building can then be worked out from the formula H = 0.5g x t squared. But bad luck on the barometer."

"Or if the sun is shining you could measure the height of the barometer, then set it on end and measure the length of its shadow. Then you measure the length of the skyscraper's shadow, and thereafter it is a simple matter of proportional arithmetic to work out the height of the skyscraper."
"But if you wanted to be highly scientific about it, you could tie a short piece of string to the barometer and swing it like a pendulum, first at ground level and then on the roof of the skyscraper. The height is worked out by the difference in the restoring force T = 2 pi sq. root (l /g)."

"Or if the skyscraper has an outside emergency staircase, it would be easier to walk up it and mark off the height of the skyscraper in barometer lengths, then add them up."

"If you merely wanted to be boring and orthodox about it, of course, you could use the barometer to measure the air pressure on the roof of the skyscraper and on the ground, and convert the difference in millibars into meters to give the height of the building."

"But since we are constantly being exhorted to exercise independence of mind and apply scientific methods, undoubtedly the best way would be to knock on the janitor's door and say to him 'If you would like a nice new barometer, I will give you this one if you tell me the height of this skyscraper'."

The student was Niels Bohr.

(I knew the story and had it here: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/match-the-scientist-with-the-story/ but took the wording now from https://www.facebook.com/dennis.presiloski.)
 
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fresh_42 said:
The student was Niels Bohr.
This story is strongly associated with Bohr but it is apocryphal. See Wikipedia: Barometer question.
 
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Did Einstein win the Nobel Prize? When? (1921? 1922? 1923?)

Einstein got nominated for the Nobel Prize in Physics, every year from 1910 to 1922. It is known that Einstein received his prize for explaining the photoelectric effect (and for his services to theoretical physics, no more details, why was relativity not acknowledged?), however it is less known when did Einstein get the prize really.

The official date is October 1921, you can confirm that in the Nobel Foundation website. However this is far from the truth. The Nobel Committee was not able to decide a winner for October 1921, so nobody won that year.

Usually a winner is confirmed in October and the ceremony to receive the prize is in December. Due to much internal debate on the matter of relativity 1921 did not have a Nobel Prize. The statuses of the Nobel Prize allow to recast the vote for the following year if not candidate gets consensus. Planck managed to convince the committee to retroactively nominate Einstein for 1921 and Bohr for 1922.

Confirmation of 1922: Max von Laue adviced Einstein to stay in Europe until September. Late 1922, the Nobel Foundation sent a telegram to Einstein confirming that he got the "1921" Nobel Prize. However, Einstein was not able to receive it, he did not follow von Laue's advice and went on a trip to Japan! He will not comeback until March 1923! Note that in 1922, Einstein's friend Walther Rathenau was assassinated, so maybe Einstein wanted to avoid staying in Germany.

Who received the prize in December 1922: During the Nobel ceremony of 1922, somebody had to receive the prize in behalf of Einstein. However, who to pick depended on his nationality. Einstein had payed for a paper to say he was no longer German and travelled only with his Swiss passport. The Swiss ambassador was going to receive the prize, but the German ambassador Rudolf Nadolny argued against it. Einstein was part of the Prussian Academy of Sciences, which had only German members. Nadolny received the prize and in the records Einstein appears as German. When Einstein came back from Japan, he and his stepdaughter Ilse asked formally to receive the prize from the Swiss ambassador.

A case for 1923? So it is clear by now that Einstein got his hands on the prize in March 1923. Another event to know is that in order to get the prize you need to make an official lecture on your work. Einstein did go to Sweden to give a lecture in July 1923, but was held in Göteborg in front of the Nordic Assembly of Naturalists and not in the Stockholm's Royal Swedish Society. The Nobel Foundation accepted it as an overdue lecture, but as Einstein discussed only relativity, the following note was added:
The Lecture was not delivered on the occasion of the Nobel Prize award, and did not, therefore, concern the discovery of the photoelectric effect.
As for the money? Einstein transferred it to his first wife Mileva Maric. They have arranged a divorce under the condition that Einstein gave him the entirety of the Nobel Prize money when he would get it. Maric bought real state in Zurich with it.

From P. B. Pal “The incredibly strange story of Einstein’s Nobel prize” (2021) https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.13519
 
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  • #164
Hornbein said:
I always thought it exceptionally unfair that Alpher and Gamow didn't get the Nobel for the Big Bang prediction while the two experimentalists who got lucky did. According to Richard Feynman the awarding of the Nobel is largely political.
It should have been given to Alpher, Bethe, Gamov. The names are just perfect for the question about the beginning of the universe.
 
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  • #166
pines-demon said:
Did Einstein win the Nobel Prize? When? (1921? 1922? 1923?)
Max-Planck-und-Albert-Einstein.jpg
Earlier anecdote missed this story of Einstein and the Planck Medal (I did not include it because it was not about the Nobel Prize):

The Planck medal is the highest award of the German Physical Society. It was instituted in 1929, and Einstein was the recipient of the inaugural year. The day of the award,he did some work in the morning and went to the house of his doctor friend, János Plesch, for lunch. After lunch, he fell asleep on a couch. He got up at four. The ceremony was supposed to begin at five. Suddenly he realized that he might be asked to speak at the occasion. So he sat down at Plesch’s table, and grabbed the nearest piece of paper, which happened to be a bootmaker’s bill. He scribbled on it for twenty minutes. Half an hour later, when Planck awarded the medal to him, he said, in his acceptance speech, that he knew that he would be overwhelmed after receiving the prize and would be at a loss for words, so he had written down his speech, and would read it out. He pulled the shoe bill from his waistcoat pocket and started reading. After the speech, Plesch told him that he needed the bill back. Einstein reached in his pocket, pulled the bill and the medal that was wrapped in it, and gave the whole thing to Plesch. Plesch wrote,
He never took it out, and never looked at it again.

Photo: from Wikipedia Max Planck Medal.
 
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Then there's Bob Dylan, who couldn't be bothered to appear in person to collect his Nobel Prize.

But he wasn't a physicist.
 
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Casimir uncredited paper

Here I found the most humble story about Pauli from Hendrik Casimir:
To work with Pauli was a new experience. If you define a genius as someone who is able to create things that are to begin with beyond his own understanding, then he may not have been genius, but his intellectual powers were tremendous. He was also known as a merciless critic who did not mince his words. To found him on the whole kind and considerate, and although he did not underestimate his own abilities he was as critical of himself as of others.

My first task as an assistant took a curious and for me rather fortunate turn. The young French theoretician Jacques Solomon had been at Zürich the preceding term. (I had met him briefly at Copenhagen a few years earlier; I remember that Landau did not like him at all, probably because Solomon was an "orthodox" communist. Solomon was later killed by the Germans.) He had written a paper in which he had added some details, especially an energy-momentum tensor, to Einstein's recent five-dimensional theory and he had sent Pauli the second proof of this paper, with a letter in which he stated that he would feel more happy if the paper would be published under the names of Pauli and Solomon.

Pauli thought this over and told me that he had not only suggested the problem to Solomon but that he had also indicated how to tackle it. So he felt that a joint publication would be appropriate, but if the paper was to bear also his name he wanted to be sure that it was correct. So he instructed me to check the formulae, I was in those days reasonably good at juggling with tensors and the task was not a difficult one. To my dismay I found that most formulae, at least the essential ones, were wrong.

I told Pauli, who at once cabled to Paris that publication should be postponed. Soon afterwards there came a letter from Jean Langevin, then editor of the Journal de Physique, with apologies: the second proof had not been returned in time, there had been only very few corrections in the first proof and so the article had already been printed and circulated, with all the errors and with Pauli's name. Pauli was less angry than he might have been, but he resolutely tackled the problem. He redid the calculations himself and, to my satisfaction confirmed my results and wrote a masterly introduction to an entirely new version. This new article was sent to Solomon who translated it into French (but Pauli told him not to change one single formula).

Then a curious thing happened, Pauli came into my room and looked worried, almost embarrassed. [Pauli said:]
Look here you found that mistake perhaps you should be co-author or at least I should put in an acknowledgement. But this is an awkward situation and I should not like to harm Solomon's future. How do you feel about it?
I answered that I did not think I deserved a special acknowledgement. It might have been different if I had found the errors at my own initiative. But Pauli had told me to check the formulae, which was simply a routine business. The great man really looked relieved.

This little incident snows that Pauli was, his sharp tongue notwithstanding, very conscientious in dealing with the
work of others. It also helped to establish friendly relations between master and assistant. And I feel quite happy that I have made at least one contribution to general relativity, and that strictly anonymous one.
From H. B. G. Casimir "My Life as a Physicist" (1979), found on Pointlike Structures Inside and Outside Hadrons edited by Antonio L. Zichichi.
 
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Casimir felt himself a failure as a theoretical physicist. He instead found employment at an electronic vacuum tube company.

Pauli later joined up with Heisenberg and came up with a bogus theory. It is my theory that Pauli was so embarrassed he never again advocated anything new.
 
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Hornbein said:
Casimir felt himself a failure as a theoretical physicist. He instead found employment at an electronic vacuum tube company.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
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How appropriate :wink:... I guess it worked out in the end. :-p



I think World War II contributed to Casimir leaving academia.
https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/dossiers/the-university-and-the-war/world-war-ii
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Casimir#Biography
In 1938, Casimir became a physics professor at Leiden University. At that time, he was actively studying both heat conduction and electrical conduction, and contributed to the attainment of millikelvin temperatures.

In 1942, during World War II, Casimir moved to the Philips Natuurkundig Laboratorium (Philips Physics Laboratory, NatLab) in Eindhoven, the Netherlands.[7] He remained an active scientist and in 1945 wrote a well-known paper on Lars Onsager's principle of microscopic reversibility. He became a co-director of Philips NatLab in 1946 and a member of the board of directors of the company in 1956.[8] He retired from Philips in 1972.[9]

Although he spent much of his professional life in industry, Hendrik Casimir was one of the great Dutch theoretical physicists. Casimir made many contributions to science during his years in research from 1931 to 1950. These contributions include: pure mathematics, Lie groups (1931); hyperfine structure, calculation of nuclear quadrupole moments, (1935); low temperature physics, magnetism, thermodynamics of superconductors, paramagnetic relaxation (1935–1942); applications of Onsager's theory of irreversible phenomena (1942–1950). He helped found the European Physical Society and became its president from 1972 till 1975. In 1979 he was one of the key speakers at CERN's 25th anniversary celebrations. In 1946 he became member of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences.[10]

While at Philips NatLab, in 1948 Casimir, collaborating with Dirk Polder, predicted the quantum mechanical attraction between conducting plates now known as the Casimir effect, which has important consequences in Micro Electro-Mechanical Systems (MEMS), among others.
 
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Casimir anecdotes (round 2)

Hornbein said:
Casimir felt himself a failure as a theoretical physicist.
I did not know that about Casimir, the document above shows that he learned from the best and contributed massively to physics.

He starts with a anecdote saying that Paul Ehrenfest never thought that he would make it:
But you were going to be an architect!
Those were the first words Ehrenfest spoke to me when I went to see him. Before the summer holidays in 1926. I had recently passed my final school examination, intended to study theoretical physics and wanted some advice. Since I have no gift for drawing and since my faculties for visualizing and remembering complicated structures in space are no more than average, this struck me as a curious remark. But Ehrenfest was firmly convinced that any kind of talent should manifest itself at an early age. He has occasionally visited our home and had apparently been impressed by the zeal and concentration with which I built towers and castles with wooden blocks, (if all kids that play with wooden blocks were to become architects there would be a surplus of architects, I'm afraid).

He has anecdotes about many physicists (I'll post more later). Here is one about Pauli's driving:
Pauli, in those days', was not a very happy man. His first marriage had broken up after a few months and he had not yet met his second wife. Also, he had put a lot of work into has article on quantum mechanics in the Handbuch der Physik but he did not quite see where to go from there. He did not like solid state physics and some of the other straightforward applications of the new theories. And I do not think he really believed in Einstein's approach to unified field theories. One of his consolations was his car. He had had some difficulty to pass the driving test and he was not a good driver, but he managed, and as far as I know accidents were limited to some dents and scratches incurred while leaving or entering his garage. Sometimes he would take me out in the evening and we would have a quiet meal at some country inn. His car also kept him from having a glass too many, which was just as well.

To the last mentioned point, however, there occurred one notable exception. That was on the occasion of the spring meeting of the Swiss Physical Society at Luzern. Pauli had driven us – that is David Inglis, Homi Bhabha, I believe also Felix Bloch and myself from Zurich to Luzern in the morning and apart from Pauli's slightly disconcerting habit of saying from time to time
Ich fahre ziemlich gut (I'm driving rather well)
a statement he underlined by turning around to his passengers and by releasing his hold on the wheel, nothing untoward happened. In the evening Pauli was drinking fruit juice with a wry face. Suddenly he changed his mind and ordered a whisky-soda. That was alright, but when he had ordered a second one and shoved no sign of wanting to stop there we became really worried. So we made a plan: we would offer him more drinks and then Inglis would drive us home. The first part of the operation succeeded, but, when we suggested that Inglis would drive, Pauli refused. He was going to drive and as far as he was concerned we could come along or stay at Luzern. By then the last train to Zurich had left, and anyway we did not want to let Pauli go all by himself. So we went, with Inglis sitting beside Pauli, ready to grasp the wheel in an emergency; we had been joined by [Walter] Elsasser, who had missed the last train and was sitting on the floor of the car. Pauli sounded his horn several times, hit one curb, swerved to the other side of the street where he hit the other curb and then managed to find his bearings and get going. It was a memorable trip.

Pauli would still from time to time say
ich fahre ziemlich gut
but when the car went screeching around curves Inglis would say sternly
Das heisst nicht gut fahren (that is not called good driving)
which somehow had a sobering effect. Once a rising moon came just over the crest of a hill and Pauli started
to swear at the driver who did not dim his headlights. Once Pauli said,
Here, I know a short cut
and suddenly turned into an unpaved track. It came to an end at the wagon shed of a farm and after some angry comments about people who, overnight, put wagonsheds across his short cut Pauli turned around and
went back to the main road. But that was all, we came safely home.

He ends his autobiography with a story discussing his own physics skills:
A few years before his death Pauli paid a visit to Holland. One evening we were sitting together with a small group of people and someone asked me if I had not had a difficult time of it as a young assistant to Pauli. Pauli looked at me expectantly and so I felt I had to make up some kind of story.

I said
Not really, Pauli had then just bought his car and there was a kind of tacit understanding between us that as long as I would refrain from making comments on his driving he would not say anything about my physics. Now I won't brag about my physics, but I think that in those days it was somewhat better than Pauli's driving.
Everyone laughed but Pauli had the last word:
Maybe it was like that. To-day I don’t drive any longer, and you, Herr Direktor, don't do physics anymore. Die Sache stimmt noch immer (Tilings still tally).
In a way Pauli was right, and so the story of my life as a physicist ends here. But the things I learnt as a physicist stood me in good stead throughout the activities of my later years.
 
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pines-demon said:
Casimir anecdotes (round 2)


I did not know that about Casimir, the document above shows that he learned from the best and contributed massively to physics.

He starts with a anecdote saying that Paul Ehrenfest never thought that he would make it:


He has anecdotes about many physicists (I'll post more later). Here is one about Pauli's driving:


He ends his autobiography with a story discussing his own physics skills:
According to his good friend CG Jung, after his divorce Pauli was getting into fistfights in bars and seemed headed for the insane asylum. He hired Jung as his therapist. Jung was struck by Pauli's vivid dreams. He had Pauli relate them to an amenuensis and published them with the subject anonymous. This book remains in print today. The key dream was the World Clock, which is reminiscent of a four dimensional rotation or clock for that matter. (A 4D planet would have two independent rotations.) I am told that Pauli's matrices are four dimensional.

Pauli once thought about fire while staring at an automobile. Said auto caught on fire. Otto Stern got so tired of machinery breaking when Pauli visited he forbade WP from entering his laboratory. Once at the CG Jung Institute a big Chinese vase spontaneously broke while Pauli was there, flooding the place. This inspired him to write about 16th century natural philosopher Fludd, the predecessor of Isaac Newton. He and CG started the noted theory of synchronicity but it didn't get far.

Similar strange events occurred to CG Jung. One was witnessed by Sigmund Freud to his shock and disconcertment, well documented in their correspondence. This may have brought CG and WP togther.
 
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Casimir anecdotes (last round)

This post is the last set of interesting anecdotes from Casimir "My Life as a Physicist".

There is this one about Niels Bohr and the resonance bridge:
Close to Bohr' Institute there is a body of water - I hesitate whether I should call it a lake or a pond - about three kilometers long and between 150 and 200 meters wide, the Sortedams Sø. It is crossed by several bridges. One day Bohr took me on a walk along that lake and over one of the bridges. [Bohr said:]
Look, I'll show you a curious resonance phenomenon.
The parapet of that bridge was built the following way. Stone pillars, about four feet high arid ten feet apart were linked near their top by a stout iron bar or probably it was a tube, let into the stone. Halfway between two pillars an iron ring was anchored in the stonework of the bridge, and two heavy chains, one on each side, were suspended between shackles welded to the topbar close to the stone pillars and that ring. Bohr grasped one chain, near the top bar, and set it swinging and to my surprise the chain at the other end of the top bar began swinging too.
Isn't that a remarkable example of resonance?
Bohr said. I was much impressed, but suddenly Bohr began to laugh. Of course resonance was quite out of the question, the coupling forces were extremely small and the oscillations were strongly damped. What happened was that Bohr while moving the chain was rotating the top bar, which was let into but not fastened into the stone pillars, and in that way he moved both chains simultaneously, I was crestfallen that I had shown so little practical sense, but Bohr consoled me, saying that Heisenberg had also been taken in; he had even given a whole lecture on resonance.

That bridge, known in Bohr's institute as the resonance bridge,[...]
Unfortunately, Casimir adds that the bridge is no longer there.

I was surprised that there were a couple of anecdotes about Lev Landau, here is one about Landau's philosophy:
Landau could be extremely aggressive. If he disliked somebody - and he could take sudden and unmotivated dislikes - then he could tease and badger in a very nasty way, but he could also be a very good friend. He was in those days a convinced revolutionary, anti-bourgeois, anti-capitalist, but he was no Marxist. Theoretical Marxism and dialectic materialism he considered to be sheer nonsense, like any other political theory, like any branch of philosophy. He once gave a lecture on scientific life in Russia to a student's society. During the discussion that followed someone asked about the freedom of teaching. He answered in the following way (this was before the Lysenko controversy):
One has to distinguish between meaningful and meaningless branches of learning. Meaningful, like mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and so on and meaningless, like theology, the whole of philosophy, sociology and the rest. Now the situation is simple. For the meaningful disciplines there is complete freedom. I must admit that for the meaningless disciplines there is a preference for certain schools of thought, but after all it is of no importance whether one prefers one kind of nonsense to the other. (Ob man den einen Oder den andere Quatsch bevorzgut).
No wonder he later got into some difficulty with the Stalin regime.
And finally at a fun one at a party:
The 1933 meeting was the last time I saw Landau; I don't think he ever came to western Europe again. One evening all of us were received at Bohr's home. Vicky Weisskopf, Otto Frisch and Hans Kopfermann performed some music and Landau, who had no ear for music at all, was pulling faces and making rather a nuisance of himself in a somewhat childish way. Afterwards Dirac walked up to him and said
if you don't like music, why don't you leave the room?
to which Landau at once replied
it's the fault of Mrs Casimir. She isn't interested in music either and I proposed that we should leave the room together. Why didn't she come along?
To this Dirac replied politely
I suppose she preferred listening to the music to going out of the room with you
Landau, for once, had no repartee.
 
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They say Lev Landau and Richard Feynman looked quite alike.

Neils Bohr had a horseshoe over his door. When asked whether he believed it brought good luck he said no. "But they say," he continued, "that it works whether or not you believe in it."
 
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pines-demon said:
I knew about the origin but I did not knew there was a debate about its pronunciation!

Also something that most people do not know is that Finnegans Wake is (at least to first order approximation) total nonsense. Any phrase in that book could have been chosen for the name of a new particle. It's like getting inspiration from the Jabberwocky poem of Alice in Wonderland.
My literature professor was from Dublin. He said FW was full of in jokes that outsiders couldn't be expected to get. He didn't like it. I found it unreadable.
 
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They say Lev Landau and Richard Feynman looked quite alike.

Neils Bohr had a horseshoe over his door. When asked whether he believed it brought good luck he said no. "But they say," he continued, "that it works whether or not you believe in it."
I think this is inaccurate. The story is that Bohr said that people that criticise QM are like the person who puts a horse shoe over his door and doesn't believe it brings good luck, but puts it there anyway because it works even if you don't believe in it.
 
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Gunslinger effect
Following up on Bohr stories, here is an anecdote about his psychological hypothesis.
In the evening, when a handful of Bohr's students were "working" in the Paa Blegdamsvejen Institute, discussing the latest problems of the quantum theory, or playing ping-pong on the library table with coffee cups placed on it to make the game more difficult, Bohr would appear, complaining that he was very tired, and would like to "do something." To "do something" inevitably meant to go to the movies, and the only movies Bohr liked were those called The Gun Fight at the Lazy Gee Ranch or The Lone Ranger and a Sioux Girl. But it was hard to go with Bohr to the movies. He could not follow the plot, and was constantly asking us, to the great annoyance of the rest of the audience, questions like this:
Is that the sister of that cowboy who shot the Indian who tried to steal a herd of cattle belonging to her brother-in-law?

The same slowness of reaction was apparent at scientific meetings. Many a time, a visiting young physicist (most physicists visiting Copenhagen were young) would deliver a brilliant talk about his recent calculations on some intricate problem of the quantum theory. Everybody in the audience would understand the argument quite clearly, but Bohr wouldn't. So everybody would start to explain to Bohr the simple point he had missed, and in the resulting turmoil everybody would stop understanding anything. Finally, after a considerable period of time, Bohr would begin to understand, and it would turn out that what he understood about the problem presented by the visitor was quite different from what the visitor meant, and was correct, while the visitor's interpretation was wrong.

Bohr's addiction to Western movies resulted in a theory which is unknown to all but his movie companions of the period. Everybody knows that in all Western movies (Hollywood style at least) the scoundrel always draws first, but the hero is faster and always shoots down the scoundrel. Niels Bohr ascribed that phenomenon to the difference between willful and conditioned actions. The scoundrel has to decide when to grab for the gun, which slows his actions, while the hero acts faster because he acts without thinking when he sees the scoundrel reach for the gun. We all disagreed with that theory, and the next morning the author went to a toy shop to buy a pair of cowboy guns. We shot it out with Bohr, he playing the hero, and he killed us all.
From: G. Gamow, Biography of Physics

The effect has even a Wiki entry with experimental evidence: Gunslinger effect
 
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Hilbert also tended to be the only one who didn't understand a lecture.
 
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An interview with Dirac​

Professor Michael Keissling, a faculty member in the Rutgers Department of Mathematics whose field of study is mathematical physics, kindly sent me a transcript of an actual interview with Dirac which appeared in the Wisconsin State Journal of April, 1929.


ROUNDY INTERVIEWS PROFESSOR DIRAC​

An Enjoyable Time Is Had By All​

By Roundy
I been hearing about a fellow they have up at the U. this spring --- a mathematical physicist, or something, they call him --- who is pushing Sir Isaac Newton, Einstein and all the others off the front page. So I thought I better go up and interview him for the benefit of State Journal readers, same as I do all other top notchers. His name is Dirac and he is an Englishman. He has been giving lectures for the intelligentsia of math and physics departments --- and a few other guys who got in by mistake.

So the other afternoon I knocks at the door of Dr. Dirac's office in Sterling Hall and a pleasant voice says "Come in." And I want to say here and now that this sentence "come in" was about the longest one emitted by the doctor during our interview. He sure is all for efficiency in conversation. It suits me. I hate a talkative guy. I found the doctor a tall youngish-looking man, and the minute I seen the twinkle in his eye I knew I was going to like him. His friends at the U. say he is a real fellow too and a good company on a hike --- if you can keep him in sight, that is.

The thing that hit me in the eye about him was that he did not seem to be at all busy. Why if I went to interview an American scientist of his class --- supposing I could find one --- I would have to stick around an hour first. Then he would blow in carrying a big briefcase, and while he talked he would be pulling lecture notes, proof, reprints, books, manuscript, or what have you out of his bag. But Dirac is different. He seems to have all the time there is in the world and his heaviest work is looking out the window. If he is a typical Englishman it's me for England on my next vacation!

Then we sat down and the interview began.

"Professor," says I, "I notice you have quite a few letters in front of your last name. Do they stand for anything in particular?"

"No," says he.

"You mean I can write my own ticket?"

"Yes," says he.

"Will it be all right if I say that P.A.M. stands for Poincare' Aloysius Mussolini?"

"Yes," says he.

"Fine," says I, "We are getting along great! Now doctor will you give me in a few words the low-down on all your investigations?"

"No," says he.

"Good," says I. "Will it be all right if I put it this way --- `Professor Dirac solves all the problems of mathematical physics, but is unable to find a better way of figuring out Babe Ruth's batting average'?"

"Yes," says he.

"What do you like best in America?", says I.

"Potatoes," says he.

"Same here," says I. "What is your favorite sport?"

"Chinese chess," says he.

That knocked me cold! It was sure a new one on me! Then I went on: "Do you go to the movies?"

"Yes," says he.

"When?", says I.

"In 1920 --- perhaps also in 1930," says he.

"Do you like to read the Sunday comics?"

"Yes," says he, warming up a bit more than usual.

"This is the most important thing yet, doctor," says I. "It shows that me and you are more alike than I thought. And now I want to ask you something more: They tell me that you and Einstein are the only two real sure-enough high-brows and the only ones who can really understand each other. I wont ask you if this is straight stuff for I know you are too modest to admit it. But I want to know this --- Do you ever run across a fellow that even you can't understand?"

"Yes," says he.

"This well make a great reading for the boys down at the office," says I. "Do you mind releasing to me who he is?"

"Weyl," says he.

The interview came to a sudden end just then, for the doctor pulled out his watch and I dodged and jumped for the door. But he let loose a smile as we parted and I knew that all the time he had been talking to me he was solving some problem that no one else could touch.

But if that fellow Professor Weyl ever lectures in this town again I sure am going to take a try at understanding him! A fellow ought to test his intelligence once in a while.
 
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Great find!
pinball1970 said:
"Will it be all right if I say that P.A.M. stands for Poincare' Aloysius Mussolini?"
This is how I will call him from now on.
pinball1970 said:
"Same here," says I. "What is your favorite sport?"

"Chinese chess," says he.
That's not something you hear often...
pinball1970 said:
"This is the most important thing yet, doctor," says I. "It shows that me and you are more alike than I thought. And now I want to ask you something more: They tell me that you and Einstein are the only two real sure-enough high-brows and the only ones who can really understand each other. I wont ask you if this is straight stuff for I know you are too modest to admit it. But I want to know this --- Do you ever run across a fellow that even you can't understand?"

"Yes," says he.

"This well make a great reading for the boys down at the office," says I. "Do you mind releasing to me who he is?"

"Weyl," says he.
We need more Weyl anecdotes.
 
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pines-demon said:
We need more Weyl anecdotes.

I’ll look around. But…
It may take a while.
 
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Weinberg: distraction is human
I found this article about Steven Weinberg that describes how he used to work. It is an interesting case:
Yet Weinberg is not your stereotypical lost-in-his-work genius who locks himself away for long periods to work on a problem. His best ideas don’t come to him while he’s working at all. He recalls one day he came out of the shower and exclaimed to his wife that he had figured out why the cosmological constant is so small (at a time before he had started thinking about anthropic explanations).
Then the next day I came out and I said [deep voice] ‘no’! So ideas come to you all the time and most of them are no good, and every once in a while you find one that is good and you have fun working at your desk. Getting good ideas isn’t something you get by trying hard, but by thinking a lot about what problems bother you. But that doesn’t always work either – just think of my ruined summer in 1972!
He never works in his office. His research work has always been done at home, where he and his wife [Louise Weinberg] have separate offices down the hall from one another and interrupt one another frequently.
I’m not hard to interrupt. I have a television set on my desk which I keep on while I work, typically watching an old movie, because I find work in theoretical physics so far removed from normal affairs.
Doesn’t it distract him?
But I need the distraction to keep at my desk because the actual work is so, well…it’s so chillingly non-human. I need to feel that I am still part of the human race while I’m doing it.
From M. Chalmers, Model Physicist, CERN Courier (October 2017)
 
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pinball1970 said:

An interview with Dirac​

Professor Michael Keissling, a faculty member in the Rutgers Department of Mathematics whose field of study is mathematical physics, kindly sent me a transcript of an actual interview with Dirac which appeared in the Wisconsin State Journal of April, 1929.


ROUNDY INTERVIEWS PROFESSOR DIRAC​

An Enjoyable Time Is Had By All​

By Roundy
I been hearing about a fellow they have up at the U. this spring --- a mathematical physicist, or something, they call him --- who is pushing Sir Isaac Newton, Einstein and all the others off the front page. So I thought I better go up and interview him for the benefit of State Journal readers, same as I do all other top notchers. His name is Dirac and he is an Englishman. He has been giving lectures for the intelligentsia of math and physics departments --- and a few other guys who got in by mistake.

So the other afternoon I knocks at the door of Dr. Dirac's office in Sterling Hall and a pleasant voice says "Come in." And I want to say here and now that this sentence "come in" was about the longest one emitted by the doctor during our interview. He sure is all for efficiency in conversation. It suits me. I hate a talkative guy. I found the doctor a tall youngish-looking man, and the minute I seen the twinkle in his eye I knew I was going to like him. His friends at the U. say he is a real fellow too and a good company on a hike --- if you can keep him in sight, that is.

The thing that hit me in the eye about him was that he did not seem to be at all busy. Why if I went to interview an American scientist of his class --- supposing I could find one --- I would have to stick around an hour first. Then he would blow in carrying a big briefcase, and while he talked he would be pulling lecture notes, proof, reprints, books, manuscript, or what have you out of his bag. But Dirac is different. He seems to have all the time there is in the world and his heaviest work is looking out the window. If he is a typical Englishman it's me for England on my next vacation!

Then we sat down and the interview began.

"Professor," says I, "I notice you have quite a few letters in front of your last name. Do they stand for anything in particular?"

"No," says he.

"You mean I can write my own ticket?"

"Yes," says he.

"Will it be all right if I say that P.A.M. stands for Poincare' Aloysius Mussolini?"

"Yes," says he.

"Fine," says I, "We are getting along great! Now doctor will you give me in a few words the low-down on all your investigations?"

"No," says he.

"Good," says I. "Will it be all right if I put it this way --- `Professor Dirac solves all the problems of mathematical physics, but is unable to find a better way of figuring out Babe Ruth's batting average'?"

"Yes," says he.

"What do you like best in America?", says I.

"Potatoes," says he.

"Same here," says I. "What is your favorite sport?"

"Chinese chess," says he.

That knocked me cold! It was sure a new one on me! Then I went on: "Do you go to the movies?"

"Yes," says he.

"When?", says I.

"In 1920 --- perhaps also in 1930," says he.

"Do you like to read the Sunday comics?"

"Yes," says he, warming up a bit more than usual.

"This is the most important thing yet, doctor," says I. "It shows that me and you are more alike than I thought. And now I want to ask you something more: They tell me that you and Einstein are the only two real sure-enough high-brows and the only ones who can really understand each other. I wont ask you if this is straight stuff for I know you are too modest to admit it. But I want to know this --- Do you ever run across a fellow that even you can't understand?"

"Yes," says he.

"This well make a great reading for the boys down at the office," says I. "Do you mind releasing to me who he is?"

"Weyl," says he.

The interview came to a sudden end just then, for the doctor pulled out his watch and I dodged and jumped for the door. But he let loose a smile as we parted and I knew that all the time he had been talking to me he was solving some problem that no one else could touch.

But if that fellow Professor Weyl ever lectures in this town again I sure am going to take a try at understanding him! A fellow ought to test his intelligence once in a while.
It appeared on April 31st in the paper.
 
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haushofer said:
It appeared on April 31st in the paper.
It's fake? All of it or Newspaper embellishments?
 
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It's fake? All of it or Newspaper embellishments?
It's not entirely certain, but I'd say it's a complete fake, yes. I recently translated this interview for an upcoming popular science book, and consulted Graham Farmelo's "The Strangest Man" for it. The interview never appeared in any newspaper, is not to be found in any archive, and Farmelo hypothesizes that the interview was a prank, maybe used for his leave at the university of Wisconsin-Madison. This "Roundy" was also well-known for his "quirky humor".

But who knows; maybe it has a grain of truth in it ;)
 
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haushofer said:
It's not entirely certain, but I'd say it's a complete fake, yes. I recently translated this interview for an upcoming popular science book, and consulted Graham Farmelo's "The Strangest Man" for it. The interview never appeared in any newspaper, is not to be found in any archive, and Farmelo hypothesizes that the interview was a prank, maybe used for his leave at the university of Wisconsin-Madison. This "Roundy" was also well-known for his "quirky humor".

But who knows; maybe it has a grain of truth in it ;)
What a shame. I got the story from the strangest man originally then found that transcript.
 
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THE Oppenheimer
After having directed the famous post-war Shelter Island Conference (1947), Oppenheimer rented a plane to go back Harvard to hear a conference of George C. Marshall on the plans of economic revitalization of post-war Europe. Oppenheimer invited some of the people of the conference with him, Victor Weisskopf remembers this:
We took off over the ocean on a beautiful, clear day, but as we approached Boston, the weather grew threatening. The pilot, worried about flying into the storm, decided to land at the seaplane airport in New London, Connecticut. Unfortunately, this was a navy airport. The tower at New London informed our pilot in the strongest terms that civilian planes were forbidden to land there, but the pilot felt he had no other choice. As he came closer and closer to the landing site, we could see a fat, red-faced man waving and shouting at us, obviously signaling that we were not allowed to land. The pilot expressed his anxiety to us about the whole affair.

Oppenheimer patted him on the shoulder and said,
You just land the plane and let me handle this.
When we touched down, the fat man, who turned out to be a captain, was furious with us. Sputtering and shouting, he told us we were breaking the law and described the penalties for what we had done. Oppenheimer came out of the plane first.
My name is Oppenheimer
he announced, and then he explained our reasons for trying to land. The captain gasped and asked,
Are you the Oppenheimer?
Oppie replied,
I am an Oppenheimer.
Then the captain realized with whom he was dealing. Instantly the mood changed from rage to veneration, and suddenly the captain couldn't have been more polite and cordial. He was terribly impressed that Oppenheimer, the great hero, had honored him by dropping in on his little field. Ceremoniously he led us to the command office, where we were given tea and cookies and put on a navy bus that took us to Boston. None of us was ever quite that famous again.
Source: Weisskopf, The Joy of Insight: Passions of a Physicist.
 
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I'm not sure if the story is apocryphal or not but there seems to be a lot of references saying that Oppenheimer (I think after Operation Paperclip) had difficulties shaking hands with Fritz Haber the inventor of the WW1 battlefield poison gas.

OK, yes, an atomic bomb might be used for something constructive, but in reality that's not what we've been seeing (personally I was a teenager in the 80s so when todays youth complain about PTSD in relation to climate-anxiety I am just a little sceptic.). If the stories about Oppenheimer's behaviour is true is strikes me as just a wee bit hypocritical.
 
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I'm not sure if the story is apocryphal or not but there seems to be a lot of references saying that Oppenheimer (I think after Operation Paperclip) had difficulties shaking hands with Fritz Haber the inventor of the WW1 battlefield poison gas.
I could not find anything about it on the web...
 
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I could not find anything about it on the web...
It was Ernest Rutherford, not Oppenheimer.
Max Born, like Haber a Nobel Prize winner, but at the end of his life very thoughtful and almost hopeless, mentioned that Rutherford, one of the first and greatest nuclear physicists, refused “to accept an invitation to my house together with Haber because he did not want to shake hands with the inventor of gas warfare”.
Hans Lenk, Zur Verantwortungsfrage in den Naturwissenschaften
https://publikationen.bibliothek.kit.edu/1000024963/24288706
 
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Freeman Dyson on Wittgenstein

This is more a story about the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein than about Dyson but it is an interesting encounter, here it goes.
Dyson had recently entered at University of Cambridge as a fellow. He had read Wittgenstein and had incredible respect for him. However the encounter was not as expected. From a 1998 interview with Sam Schweber [SS] taken from Web of Stories:
[SS] And eat at High Table?

Even if I wanted to, I didn't eat much at High Table because it wasn't my kind of food. It was too elegant for me. I needed calories and at that time food was pretty scarce in England, it was still rationed, and I found I could do better with the food ration, cooking it myself, than they did at the High Table. So that's what I did, and next door to me there was Wittgenstein, who lived on the same staircase, and he always cooked for himself too, and so I used to cook my supper with the smell of fish from Wittgenstein's room next door.

[SS] And you got to get to know him?

A little bit. Of course, Wittgenstein was a man who loved to torture people and so he invited me into his rooms one day - this was the closest contact I ever had with him, in fact. I mean, we passed each other very often on the stairs without speaking, but once he suddenly invited me into his rooms and said,
Would you like to come and have a cup of coffee?
So I was thrilled, I said,
Yes, I'll certainly come.
So I came in there and there was one chair, and he invited me to sit down in it, and it was a canvas deck chair which meant I was practically lying horizontally on this canvas chair, and he was standing uncomfortably waiting for me to say something, and so I found it acutely embarrassing, but in any case, I'd come in and so I thought I might as well try, and so eventually I decided I would start a conversation. So I said to him,
Well, you know, I read the Tractatus and I'd be interested to know whether you still believe the things you said in the Tractatus or have you changed you mind?
And so Wittgenstein looked at me in a very, very hostile fashion and he said,
Tell me please, which newspaper do you represent?
That was the end of the conversation. So there was another long silence, and then I drank the coffee and left.

So I didn't get much out of Wittgenstein. I had the impression he was simply a charlatan. He loved to torture people and he was of course always extremely insulting to women. He couldn't tolerate women coming to his lectures, and he would just simply be so rude that they had to leave. So a thoroughly disagreeable character, and apart from the Tractatus I never read any of his stuff, so I shouldn't judge him but - I think I consider him anyway overrated as a philosopher.
In "What can you really know?" The New York Review of Books (2012), Dyson adds
Fifty years later, walking through a churchyard on the outskirts of Cambridge on a sunny morning in winter, I came by chance upon his tombstone, a massive block of stone lightly covered with fresh snow. On the stone was written the single word, "WITTGENSTEIN." To my surprise, I found that the old hatred was gone, replaced by a deeper understanding. He was at peace, and I was at peace too, in the white silence. He was no longer an ill-tempered charlatan. He was a tortured soul, the last survivor of a family with a tragic history, living a lonely life among strangers, trying until the end to express the inexpressible.
 
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pines-demon said:
This is more a story about the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein than about Dyson but it is an interesting encounter, here it goes.
That seems to be a notorious encounter: physicist versus philosopher. I have a translation of Popper's book "The Logic of Scientific Discovery" that contains facsimiles of his exchange (through letters) with Einstein who criticized Popper's book.
 
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The sad history of N-Rays was told to us at Uni as an object lesson...

Just after the the discovery of X-Rays, a French scientist thought he'd found an analogous phenomenon, which he named as 'N-Rays. They could be refracted, diffracted etc. Truly, fun stuff !!
However, Reproducibility proved as hard as eg our recent 'near-ambient superconductors'' claims...

Finally, a group of scientists was sent to the central lab to figure what was going on. An investigator covertly displaced the essential aluminium 'prism' at the core of one apparatus, but the demonstration still worked...
Game Over.

Seems, like many seeing 'Martian Canals' and, later, hapless Prof Laithwaite enthralled by gyroscopes' math, the French scientist' had simply lost the plot'...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-ray

Due Care, Please ??
 
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It was Ernest Rutherford, not Oppenheimer.

Hans Lenk, Zur Verantwortungsfrage in den Naturwissenschaften
https://publikationen.bibliothek.kit.edu/1000024963/24288706
That explains why I couldn't find anything to back up my claim. I was barking up the wrong tree. Thanks for setting that straight.
 
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That explains why I couldn't find anything to back up my claim. I was barking up the wrong tree. Thanks for setting that straight.
It is an interesting article "On the question of responsibility in the natural sciences" with a list of references that isn't less interesting, e.g. Born's article "The destruction of ethics by the natural sciences. Reflections of a physicist." Harsh words! It's too bad my Google Translate trick with Chrome does not work with pdf.
 
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Gunslinger effect
Following up on Bohr stories, here is an anecdote about his psychological hypothesis.

From: G. Gamow, Biography of Physics

The effect has even a Wiki entry with experimental evidence: Gunslinger effect
Fast draw is one of the fastest sports in the world. Every time is measured under one second, from the signal to draw to when the timer is stopped. The current World Fast Draw Association (WFDA) record for Open Class Fast Draw in an event called Standing Balloons is .208 seconds - and that includes the time it takes to react, draw, fire and pop a balloon target at eight feet away. A world class competitor can draw and fire a shot in under half a second. Given that the average human reaction time is around 0.2 to 0.25 seconds, the round is over before most people can react. The reaction times of the best fast draw shooters is 0.145 seconds, which means that the gun is cocked, drawn, aimed (from the hip), and fired in just over 0.06 seconds. To establish a World Fast Draw Association record, a second shot must be fired in the same competition that is no more than 0.30 seconds slower than the first; this is intended to prevent a shot that anticipates the start signal from setting a record. In competitions where two rounds must be fired, at separate targets, less than 0.10 seconds separate the shots.

----https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_draw

(Bold added)

EDIT: Quite a difference really. Had a discussion on this very topic today.

EDIT2: Not gonna add more noise. Just wanted to share this particular clip: Fast Draw from Concealment.
 
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Cabrera's romantic monopole

On the night of St. Valentine (14th February) of 1984, Blas Cabrera Navarro (grandson of Spanish experimental physicist Blas Cabrera) from Stanford, recorded an event which had the signature of a magnetic monopole with a single Dirac magnetic charge. A year later, Cabrera received a Valentine's card from Sheldon Glashow, which read:
Roses are red,
violets are blue.
The time has come for monopole two!
We are still waiting.

Source: AIP Oral History with Blas Cabrera Navarro, 2021
 
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pines-demon said:
Cabrera's romantic monopole

On the night of St. Valentine (14th February) of 1984, Blas Cabrera Navarro (grandson of Spanish experimental physicist Blas Cabrera) from Stanford, recorded an event which had the signature of a magnetic monopole with a single Dirac magnetic charge. A year later, Cabrera received a Valentine's card from Sheldon Glashow, which read:

We are still waiting.

Source: AIP Oral History with Blas Cabrera Navarro, 2021
Actually this interview is interesting, various important physicists are named.

Blas Cabrera, grandfather of Cabrera Navarro was a famous physicist in the realm of magnetism. He appears in one of the pictures from the 1930 Solvay Conference. In one instance during a conference, Cabrera Navarro (who never met his grandfather), asked Paul Dirac if he remembered him. Dirac just said:
Yes, there was a Spaniard there [in Solvay]
 
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The Experiment that Confirmed Quantum Mechanics:
Some good insights into how the Stern-Gerlach story came to pass.


 
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Swamp Thing said:
The Experiment that Confirmed Quantum Mechanics:
Fascinating insights into how the Stern-Gerlach story came to pass.
If you are interested in the Stern–Gerlach experiment, see also comment #86
 
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