Interesting ideas for mathematics presentation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around ideas for a mathematics presentation at a community college science symposium, focusing on topics that are often overlooked in favor of biology and chemistry. Participants explore various mathematical themes, including historical theorems, number theory, and specific mathematical concepts like the golden ratio and Quipu, the Incan counting system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in presenting great theorems of mathematics inspired by William Dunham's book, suggesting topics like number theory and the golden ratio.
  • Another participant critiques the golden ratio and Quipu as being "nothing but hand waving," implying a lack of rigor in their presentation.
  • Some participants discuss the potential for Quipu to be an interesting topic, while others suggest it may not be suitable if it is treated as a historical report without mathematical depth.
  • Concerns are raised about the misuse of the golden ratio in pseudoscience and numerology, with a participant noting it is more of an observation than a rigorously derived result.
  • The original poster indicates a decision to focus on theorems rather than the previously mentioned topics.
  • Later, the original poster shares plans to present on the Pythagorean theorem, covering algebraic, geometric, and trigonometric perspectives, along with historical context and proofs.
  • Finally, the original poster announces a choice to present on Euler's identity, emphasizing an in-depth analysis from multiple perspectives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability of the golden ratio and Quipu as presentation topics, with some viewing them as lacking rigor while others find them interesting. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the value of these topics, as well as the appropriateness of their inclusion in a mathematics presentation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the potential for misinterpretation and misuse of certain mathematical concepts, particularly the golden ratio, which may depend on definitions and context. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on how to approach historical and conceptual topics in mathematics.

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I will be doing a presentation in the science symposium at my community college. The common theme is always topics from biology or chemistry but never from physics or mathematics.. I am a Math major and love pure mathematics, I am interested in presenting the great theorems of mathematics inspired by William Dunham's book called " Journey through the genius". The presentation will be around 12-15 minutes where I will try to present some of these theorems in the most interesting way. Other topics I had in my mind were Quipu : The mathematics of the Incas. Number theory and Golden ratio. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
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sunny79 said:
Other topics I had in my mind were Quipu : The mathematics of the Incas. Number theory and Golden ratio
I would stay away from this as it's nothing but hand waving.
 
Evo said:
I would stay away from this as it's nothing but hand waving.

These? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu

I think they'd make for a pretty interesting presentation.
 
jack476 said:
These? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quipu

I think they'd make for a pretty interesting presentation.
He was talking about golden ratio. If he wants to do a historical report just about how the Inca counted, no problem, if that's allowed.
 
Why is the golden ratio nothing but hand waving?
 
ulianjay said:
Why is the golden ratio nothing but hand waving?
It is often misused, you'll see it used with numerology and pseudoscience and outright woowoo.
 
ulianjay said:
Why is the golden ratio nothing but hand waving?

It's really more of an observation than a rigorously derived result. And Evo is right that it can stray dangerously close to math woo.

Evo said:
It is often misused, you'll see it used with numerology and pseudoscience and outright woowoo.
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I will be sticking to my original plan of theorems.
 
Anyway, looking back, I don't think the OP meant to combine the Inca and the golden ratio, I believe he meant them as separate topics..
 
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I really appreciate your input guys. I shall be doing a presentation about the Pythagoras theorem. Three theorems will be covered. 1) Algebraic 2) Geometric 3) Trigonometric with historical background, significance and a proof accompanied with each one.
 
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Ah well! Today was the final day of the topic submission. I ended up choosing to do a presentation on Euler's identity, An in-depth analysis from a historical, mathematical and scientific perspective. The presentation will be held in late April.
 
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sunny79 said:
Ah well! Today was the final day of the topic submission. I ended up choosing to do a presentation on Euler's identity, An in-depth analysis from a historical, mathematical and scientific perspective. The presentation will be held in late April.
Sounds interesting, good luck with it!
 
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Thanks a lot.
 

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