I Interference of signal photons entangled with idlers

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The discussion centers on an experiment involving photons hitting a beam splitter and undergoing parametric down conversion to create signal and idler photons. It questions whether interference can occur at a second beam splitter, allowing detection at one detector while excluding another, similar to a Mach-Zehnder interferometer. The consensus is that this setup will not produce interference patterns, as the idler photons can act as which-way markers, making them distinguishable. Merging paths to ensure indistinguishability could potentially lead to multi-photon interference, but the original configuration does not support this. The confirmation of these principles aligns with findings from the referenced paper on quantum imaging.
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A photon hits a beam splitter, then a non-linear crystal on both ways, the Signal photons then meet at a second beam splitter like in an MZI. Can there be interference?
Consider the following experiment:
A photon hits a beam splitter, then a non-linear crystal (nichtlinearer Kristall - sorry, prepared the image in German) on each path that does parametric down conversion, splitting the photon into a signal and an idler.
The idlers proceed to two detectors (D1 and D2), the signals meet at a beam splitter.
Can there be interference at the second beam splitter so that only D3 is reached and D4 is not as in a standard Mach-Zehnder interferometer?
Does the situation change if the distance to D1 and D2 is so large that they are reached only after the signals meet at the beam splitter?
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This experiment is inspired by
Lemos, Gabriela B., et al. “Quantum Imaging with Undetected Photons.” arXiv preprint arXiv:1401.4318 (2014).
In that paper, the two idlers are arranged so that they end up on the same path and are indistinguishable, so there interference is possible.
 
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No, this will not work. You can use D1 or D2 as a which way marker and the order of detection events does not matter at all. If you merge the paths, so that all of the photons on the red paths end up on the same detector with the same path length, you could get some nontrivial multi-photon interference, but the setup you show, will not result in interference patterns.
 
Thanks. I was 99% sure that this would be the case since any interference terms would contain products like ##\langle idler 1 | idler 2\rangle##, but it is good to have this confirmed.
 
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