Interpretation of Net Peak Area in Gamma Spectroscopy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of net peak area in gamma spectroscopy, specifically questioning the distribution of values within the calculated uncertainty range. Participants explore whether these values are uniformly distributed or if they follow a Gaussian distribution, considering the implications of detector characteristics and gamma emission processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if the net peak area values between extremes are uniformly distributed or biased towards the centroid, suggesting a Gaussian nature.
  • Another participant agrees that the uncertainty is represented by the standard deviation and asserts that the distribution is not uniform, implying a Gaussian distribution centered at the net peak area.
  • A different participant mentions the potential for implementing simulations in Python to model the distribution, referencing a trustworthy source for uncertainty simulations.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of gamma emissions and detector limitations, noting that scattering may affect the energy detected and that different detector types could yield varying spectra.
  • It is noted that while Gaussian distribution is a useful approximation, real distributions may not always conform strictly to this shape.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the uncertainty is represented by standard deviation and that the distribution is likely not uniform. However, there is no consensus on the exact nature of the distribution, with some suggesting Gaussian characteristics while others highlight potential deviations from this model.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as detector type and scattering effects that may influence the observed distributions, indicating that the discussion is complex and context-dependent.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for those interested in gamma spectroscopy, statistical analysis of experimental data, and the implications of detector characteristics on measurement outcomes.

RobotGuy
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Hello,

My question relates to gamma spectroscopy. I understand how the net peak area is calculated for any photopeak. Fortunately, gamma-spec software (e.g., Genie-2000 from Canberra) provides Net peak area and associated uncertainty (for Cs-137 661.7 keV peak, as an example). My question: are the values between extremes uniformly distributed? For example, for a hypothetical case with net peak area 1000+/-99, the net peak area can vary between 901 and 1099. So, the values between these extremes are uniformly distributed? In other words, if the experiment is repeated, the probability of getting any peak area between (901,1099) is same? Or is it biased at the centroid (1000)—such that centroid peak area will occur most of the times and the extremes will occur least (like Gaussian nature)?

I am confused because the 'Gaussian Shape' of the photopeak is already accounted to calculate the net peak area?

Thanks,
 
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Hello @RobotGuy ,
:welcome:

No responses so far (perhaps because it is still a bit of a holiday season), so I'll give it a generic shot...

In such software, net peak area and associated uncertainty follow from a fit to an expected profile (Gaussian, Lorenzian or Voigt, possibly on some background function). The uncertainty given is the standard deviation. In your example you may assume a Gaussian distribution centered at 1000 with a sigma of 99.

So definitely not a uniform distribution.

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Hello @BvU ,

That's what I think too. You are right, the uncertainty is standard deviation. What you mentioned can be implemented in Python using random.gauss() function. I also came across this link which simulates that efficiently (and the source is trustworthy too): https://uncertainty.nist.gov/

Mentioned just in case if someone else stops here in the future.
 
RobotGuy said:
My question: are the values between extremes uniformly distributed? For example, for a hypothetical case with net peak area 1000+/-99, the net peak area can vary between 901 and 1099. So, the values between these extremes are uniformly distributed? In other words, if the experiment is repeated, the probability of getting any peak area between (901,1099) is same? Or is it biased at the centroid (1000)—such that centroid peak area will occur most of the times and the extremes will occur least (like Gaussian nature)?
It's been a long time since I've looked into the details of gamma spectra, but generally, the emission should be a characteristic of the radionuclide. A detector may not receive/detect 'all' of the energy since there is scattering between the source nucleus and the detector, and the scattering is essentially down in energy, not upward. Some of the peak energy is due to the simultaneous detection of a primary (characteristic gamma) and a gamma of lower energy, which is where one would receive a gamma energy > 0.667 keV. The type of detector is also important, e.g., compare spectra from a NaI(Tl) vs Ge(Li) vs LaBr detectors (detector resolution). In the gamma source, gamma rays are emitted isotropically, so one does not necessarily get the full energy of the gamma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_spectroscopy#Interpretation_of_measurements
https://www.ortec-online.com/-/media/ametekortec/brochures/lanthanum.pdf

RobotGuy said:
I am confused because the 'Gaussian Shape' of the photopeak is already accounted to calculate the net peak area?
The 'Gaussian' distribution is a nice approximate (and relatively simple and straightforward) even when distributions are not quite Gaussian.
 
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