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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around interpreting and summarizing a scientific article from Nature Genetics. Participants are addressing the challenges of understanding the article's content, including its methods, questions posed by the authors, and conclusions drawn. The scope includes conceptual clarification and assistance with academic interpretation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants emphasize that summarizing the article is the responsibility of the original poster (OP) and not the forum members.
  • One participant points out that the abstract of the paper provides a summary and suggests that the OP clarify what specific aspects they find confusing.
  • Another participant mentions that the conclusions of the article indicate genetic evidence supporting the claim that Pathans are descended from Greek soldiers under Alexander the Great, noting that the genetic fingerprint is faint but significant.
  • A participant expresses willingness to help but requests clarification on what the OP does not understand about the article.
  • There is a discussion about the accessibility of the article, with one participant mistakenly believing it to be open-access, while another corrects this by stating that only a limited subset of Nature's publications is open-access.
  • Participants inquire about the OP's background, questioning whether they are a high school or university student, to better tailor their responses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that summarizing the article is the OP's responsibility, but there is a willingness to assist with understanding specific aspects. Disagreement exists regarding the accessibility of the article and the extent of help that should be provided.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding due to the complexity of the article's methodology and the specific genetic concepts discussed, which may require a background in genetics to fully grasp.

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Hello XTEND,

PhysicsForums is populated by a large number of people who are inquisitive, and often knowledgeable in various areas of science, the arts, and various esoteric topics.

I don't mean to be overly harsh, as you're relatively new here, BUT:

  • We don't do your work for you (e.g. summarizing an article--that's your job / homework)
  • We don't share / make publicly available copyrighted materials (e.g. a Nature article). If the original authors have this online somewhere, please link to THEIR website.

Additionally, the Abstract (a summary of the paper) is on the first page!

EDIT: Additionally, please refrain from txtspk--people spend time writing out proper responses, you should ask proper questions.
 
MATLABdude said:
[*]We don't share / make publicly available copyrighted materials (e.g. a Nature article). If the original authors have this online somewhere, please link to THEIR website.
The http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n1/full/5201726a.html"is available online for all at the Nature website.

Xtend, what is it you wish help understanding? The conclusions or the methodology?
The conclusions are simple: genetic evidence lends support to the claim by Pathans that they are descended from Greek soldiers under Alexander the Great. The genetic fingerprint is faint, but significant.

If you wish to understand the methodology you are going to have to range far and wide beyond this single paper.
 
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I basically need to be able to present the paper in terms people would better understand than a complicated journal article. BUT I'm having troubles understanding it as well.

A basic summary of these would help...
-methods or approach
-what questions the author addresses or has
-conclusions
 
XTEND said:
BUT I'm having troubles understanding it as well.
XTEND, let me make a couple of background remarks. I basically agree with Matlabdude's statement that members here won't do your work for you. But you seem to be having genuine difficulty with this, so I'm willing to help out.

However, I am having great trouble in understanding what you don't understand. You ask "what questions the author addresses or has, (what are his) conclusions".

That has been answered. It was answered by : "genetic evidence lends support to the claim by Pathans that they are descended from Greek soldiers under Alexander the Great. The genetic fingerprint is faint, but significant."

It has been answered by matlabdude, who pointed you to the abstract of the paper. "Three Pakistani populations residing in northern Pakistan, the Burusho, Kalash and Pathan claim descent from Greek soldiers associated with Alexander's invasion of southwest Asia. ...Although based on only a few unrelated descendants, this provides strong evidence for a European origin for a small proportion of the Pathan Y chromosomes."

So, I am at a loss to see what it is you don't understand about this. Can you say what remains unclear?

As to the methodology, unless you are talking to someone well versed in genetics there is not a lot you can say.
 
Ophiolite said:
The http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v15/n1/full/5201726a.html"is available online for all at the Nature website.

I'm at home and accessing this (without accessing through my University's institutional access proxy). Didn't know Nature had switched over to an open-access model.

For the OP, what is this for? Are you a high school student who's been given a scientific paper to parse / understand, or is this for a university-level genetics course? It would help us understand where you're coming from, and what you might or might not understand.
 
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MATLABdude said:
Didn't know Nature had switched over to an open-access model.
They haven't. It applies to only a very limited subset of their publications. I haven't yet figured out what defines the subset.
 

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