Intersection of Rationals and (0 to Infinity)?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the intersection of rational numbers with the interval (0, ∞) and the implications of this intersection in set theory. Participants are exploring the nature of rational and irrational numbers within the context of this intersection.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning why the intersection of rational numbers and the interval (0, ∞) does not yield the irrationals, with some expressing confusion about the nature of the sets involved. There is an exploration of the cardinality of rational and irrational numbers in relation to the interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants reiterating questions about the intersection and attempting to clarify the definitions and properties of the sets involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the intersection, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the definitions of rational and irrational numbers are understood, but there seems to be a lack of clarity regarding their intersections and cardinalities.

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Homework Statement


Let A = [Q\bigcap(0,\infty)] \bigcup {-1} \bigcup(-3, -2]


Homework Equations


So A = (0,\infty) \bigcup{-1} \bigcup(-3,-2]


The Attempt at a Solution


I understand that the Rational numbers are cardinally equivalent to (0,\infty),

but why isn't the intersection of Rationals and (0,\infty) =>(0,\infty)\Irrationals ?
 
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IntroAnalysis said:
I understand that the Rational numbers are cardinally equivalent to (0,\infty),
Quite the contrary, the Irrationals are cardinally equivalent to (0,\infty)
 
The set of all rational numbers is countable, unlike [0, \infty).
 
Then back to my original question why is the intersection of rationals and (0,∞) = (0,∞)

in other words, why don't irrationals come out of this intersection?
 
IntroAnalysis said:
Then back to my original question why is the intersection of rationals and (0,∞) = (0,∞)

in other words, why don't irrationals come out of this intersection?

If x belongs to the intersection of A and B, then x belongs to A and x belongs to B. The intersection of rationals and (0,∞) is the set of numbers which are both rationals and positive real numbers.
 
IntroAnalysis said:
Then back to my original question why is the intersection of rationals and (0,∞) = (0,∞)

in other words, why don't irrationals come out of this intersection?
It isn't. The intersection of the set of all rational numbers with all positive real numbers is all positive rational numbers.
 

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