Interview with Astronomer Pamela Gay - Comments

[Greg Bernhardt]

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Interview with Astronomer Pamela Gay

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[UsableThought]

I enjoyed the interview; I don't follow cosmology or astronomy currently, but Gay's positive outlook is infectious.

Where she addresses topics other than astronomy, I especially liked this question and answer:

It seems that there is more anti-science and misinformation in the media, which probably trickles down to our students. How can we better train our students to be more resistive to this?

The problem goes beyond just misinformation about science, and extends to misinformation about just about any topic someone might what to read about. The most important thing I think we can teach is to get people – student’s and everyone else – to consistently ask; what are the sources, what is the evidence, and (if you can’t validate the source or evidence) is there a self-serving reason the author may be saying what they’re saying? Learning that click-bait means income, and that facts that have a negative economic impact may get suppressed are important lessons we all need to take to heart.​

The first bolded sentence ("The problem goes beyond") is something I strongly agree with. Those of us who wish to improve upon science education must remember that science is just the tip of the misinformation/mistrust iceberg.

As for the remainder of the quote, including the bolded sentence at the end which alludes to motives for spreading misinformation, I agree with all of this as well; but how to carry out such good intentions? I think many of us have an impression that critical thinking, although supposedly taught in college and possibly in some high schools in the U.S., is still not widespread in the population. I'd be curious as to how it actually is taught; whether it is mandatory; the degree to which students discount the value of such courses based on their own preconceptions; etc.

 

[jasonRF]

Thanks for the interesting interview. Pamela Gay seems like an excellent person for her job.

Advocating for physics first education is interesting. I really like the idea in principle, but am not sure how the implementation really works for typical high school freshman in the US. My elder daughter is in a physics first school, and it made for a very rough start in science for the majority of the students. Academic performance in physics was the single larges reason students had some school priviledges revoked. From what I could gather from my daughter it seems that most students did not have the mathematical skills to really understand a quantitative physics class (at least the one taught in her school). On the positive side, after understanding basic physics the sophomore chemistry class can use the understanding of electrostatic forces to help understand why some chemical reactions occur, but a qualitative understanding would probably be adequate for that. Knowing physics may also help teenagers understand wise driving habits, like not accellerating much or turning at high speed when the road is slick. So I'm all for freshman learning some physics at some level, but a full-year "highly" quantitative course may not be the best choice for every student.

jason