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The discussion revolves around the intersection of mathematics and economics, particularly in the context of an interview with mathematician Fresh_42. Participants explore the nature of economics as a social science and its mathematical underpinnings, as well as speculative connections between economics and quantum physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants find the comments on economics interesting, noting the presence of mathematics in the field and the fluidity of acceptable solutions.
  • There is a suggestion that economics could be considered a sub-category of quantum physics, with references to Feynman's ideas about the nature of physics and economics.
  • One participant mentions an economist's claim that economics is a social science, while others express mixed views on this classification.
  • Another participant argues that social sciences may increasingly rely on mathematics, citing examples of modeling social phenomena using physical models and statistical mechanics.
  • Some participants reference the scientific methods used in economics to explain behaviors of individuals and groups, with a humorous remark about the nature of economics as "herding human cats."
  • A technical issue is raised regarding the display of the Euler formula in the context of the discussion.

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Participants express a range of views on the classification of economics as a social science and its relationship with mathematics. There is no consensus on whether economics should be categorized under quantum physics or how it should be defined within the broader context of social sciences.

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Some statements reflect personal interpretations and speculative connections that may not be universally accepted or validated. The discussion includes references to specific mathematical models and theories without resolving their applicability to social sciences.

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I think the economist comments are interesting. Certainly there is a lot of math in economics, but it's interesting they have s more fluid ranges of acceptable solutions.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
I think the economist comments are interesting. Certainly there is a lot of math in economics, but it's interesting they have s more fluid ranges of acceptable solutions.
hmmmm... Perhaps "Economics" should be a sub-category of "Quantum Physics"?
 
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OmCheeto said:
... Perhaps "Economics" should be a sub-category of "Quantum Physics"?

- indeed, why not? Feynman suggested that Physics / Nature might well be something like the Great Game played by some hidden Players - and the most interesting games have some "economical" aspect - suppose that those Players have to pay somehow for making improbable quantum choices - and that's how the Born Rule actually emerges . . .
 
One economist at my institution claims economics is a social science.

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Interview with Mathematician Fresh_42. Nice. Enjoyed reading it.
 
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cosmik debris said:
One economist at my institution claims economics is a social science.

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I think it is in many aspects, but I also think that the social sciences are going to be endured by mathematics at some point, you can do, and it is actually done, some hard predictions in social sciences. You can actually model some social phenomena and behavior using physical models, I have seen some papers on this kind of topics, applying some statistical mechanics equation that describes some nucleation process to the formation of the centers of cities, or some kinetic gas equation to describe evacuation in emergency situations for some building and staff like that. It is pretty gross for what "social" means, but as science advances, I think we are going to see more and more of this. At this point people can see the activation of neurons one by one, all this techniques will have an impact in psychology and sociology, all the advances in neurosciences will have an impact in the future on how all those disciplines like social sciences and psychology are driven.
 
Ummm...

"Economics is regarded as a social science because it uses scientific methods to build theories that can help explain the behaviour of individuals, groups and organisations."

ref: http://www.economicsonline.co.uk/Competitive_markets/What_is_economics.html

ps. I didn't believe it at first either. But if you think about it for about 15 seconds, it makes sense.

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Student; "What the hell is Economics, really?"
Professor Om; "Economics is the study of herding human cats."
 
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One small nit: The Euler formula is not showing up as it should:

##e^{ipi} + 1 = 0##
 

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