Intro to modern algebra proof questions

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The discussion revolves around two proof problems in modern algebra involving prime numbers and modular arithmetic. The first problem requires proving a relationship involving the order of 2 modulo a number derived from a prime. The second problem involves demonstrating a congruence condition for a prime based on a polynomial equation modulo that prime.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problems, with some seeking clarification on specific terms like the order of 2 modulo n. Others suggest considering implications of the polynomial equation and the use of Fermat's Little Theorem as potential avenues for exploration.

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There are various lines of reasoning being explored, with some participants offering hints and insights that may guide further thought. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to unpack the problems without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note the constraints of the problems, such as the requirement for p to be greater than certain values and the implications of modular arithmetic on the properties of primes. There is also mention of hints provided within the problems that may influence the direction of the discussion.

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Ive been working all afternoon on these two problems, and i don't have a clue how to solve either of them.

Homework Statement


Let p>2 be a prime number and let n=2p +1. Prove that |2|n =2p.

Let p > 3 be a prime number and suppose there is an integer a such that a2+a+1 ≡ 0 (mod p).
Prove that p≡1 (mod 3). (Hint: a3 −1=(a2 +a+1)(a−1))

Homework Equations



phi(x)=phi(p1)*phi(p2)...phi(pn) where p are the unique prime factors of x

The Attempt at a Solution



i don't even know where to begin, everything I've done ends with dead ends
 
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rg2004 said:
Ive been working all afternoon on these two problems, and i don't have a clue how to solve either of them.

Homework Statement


Let p>2 be a prime number and let n=2p +1. Prove that |2|n =2p.
What does |2|n mean?
rg2004 said:
Let p > 3 be a prime number and suppose there is an integer a such that a2+a+1 ≡ 0 (mod p).
Prove that p≡1 (mod 3). (Hint: a3 −1=(a2 +a+1)(a−1))

Homework Equations



phi(x)=phi(p1)*phi(p2)...phi(pn) where p are the unique prime factors of x

The Attempt at a Solution



i don't even know where to begin, everything I've done ends with dead ends
 
the "order of 2 mod n"

for the smallest x such that:
2x=1 (mod n)
where x=|2|n
 
I've put in about a half-hour on #2 and it doesn't occur to me how to prove it, but here are some things to think about.

a2 + a + 1 [itex]\equiv[/itex] 0 (mod p) so what does that imply about a3 - 1 (keeping the hint in mind)?

In modulo 3 equivalence classes, there really are only two choices for p:
p [itex]\equiv[/itex] 1 (mod 3)
or
p [itex]\equiv[/itex] 2 (mod 3)

p can't be equivalent to 0 (mod 3) or it would be a multiple of 3, hence nonprime (3 * 1 is prime, but need not be considered, since it's given that p > 3).
 
For the first one, have you considered Fermat's Little Theorem?
 
There is a simple underlying fact that will help you complete both. This is fundamental enough that I don't think it has a name. Remember that the order of a mod n divides any b s.t. [tex]a^b\equiv 1 (\textrm{mod}\;n).[/tex]

rg2004 said:

Homework Statement


Let p>2 be a prime number and let n=2p +1. Prove that |2|n =2p.
Note that [tex]2^p \equiv -1 (\textrm{mod}\;n) \Longrightarrow 2^{2p} \equiv 1 (\textrm{mod}\;n)[/tex]. Then, the order of 2 mod n divides 2p. It can't be 2 or p, so it must be 2p.

rg2004 said:
Let p > 3 be a prime number and suppose there is an integer a such that a2+a+1 ≡ 0 (mod p).
Prove that p≡1 (mod 3). (Hint: a3 −1=(a2 +a+1)(a−1))
As snipez90 suggested, you know from Fermat's little theorem that [tex]a^{p-1} \equiv 1 (\textrm{mod}\;p)[/tex]. From what they tell you, you see that [tex]a^3\equiv 1 (\textrm{mod}\;p).[/tex] Either the order of a mod p is 1 (a=1) or 3. It can't be 1, because [tex]a^2+a+1 \equiv 0 (\textrm{mod}\;p)[/tex] and [tex]p>3[/tex]. Then, (p-1) is divisible by 3.
 

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