Intuition for arc length, angle and radius formula

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The discussion revolves around understanding the intuition and proof behind the formula for arc length, specifically the relationship between arc length, arc angle, and radius. Participants explore the concept of radians and how it relates to the arc length in circles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the intuition and proof of the formula arc length = arc angle * radius, indicating a lack of understanding of radians.
  • One participant notes that the arc length of a complete circle is 2πr, suggesting that this can help in adjusting the angle of the arc.
  • Another participant provides the definition of a radian, stating that 1 radian is the angle subtended by an arc of length equal to the radius of the circle.
  • A participant explains that if the arc length is s and the central angle is θ in radians, the relationship can be expressed as s = rθ, based on proportionality.
  • One participant suggests visualizing the concept using a unit circle and describes a scenario involving an equilateral triangle to illustrate the relationship between the angles and arc lengths.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar confusions regarding the intuition behind the formula and the concept of radians, but there is no consensus on a clear understanding or resolution of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the participants' varying levels of understanding of radians and the geometric interpretations involved in the discussion. The mathematical steps and definitions provided are not universally accepted as clear or complete by all participants.

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I don't understand the intuition/proof of why arc length = arc angle * radius. This may be partially because I don't fully understand the concept of radians, but anyhow please help.
 
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gokuls said:
I don't understand the intuition/proof of why arc length = arc angle * radius. This may be partially because I don't fully understand the concept of radians, but anyhow please help.


Well, what's the arc length of a complete circle? Just \,2\pi r\,\,,\,r=\, the circle's radius, and since \,2\pi\,\, radians=360^\circ , we

just "adjust" the angle of the arc...

DonAntonio
 
gokuls said:
I don't understand the intuition/proof of why arc length = arc angle * radius. This may be partially because I don't fully understand the concept of radians, but anyhow please help.

You have the definition of a radian: 1 radian is measure of the central angle of a circle that subtends an arc of length equal to the radius of the circle.

Now say you have an arc of length ##s## subtended by a central angle ##\theta## measured in radians. Then, since the arc length is proportional to the central angle and a central angle of ##\theta= 1## radian subtends an arc of length ##r##,$$
\frac s \theta = \frac r 1$$which gives ##s = r\theta##.
 
LCKurtz said:
You have the definition of a radian: 1 radian is measure of the central angle of a circle that subtends an arc of length equal to the radius of the circle.
To help you (the OP, not LCKurtz) understand this a bit better, sketch a unit circle with its center at the origin. Draw a radius out from the center to the point (1, 0). Draw another radius from the center so that the radius makes an angle of 60° with the x-axis. Connect the two points where the two radii intersect the circle. You should have an equilateral triangle, with all three sides of length 1 and all three angles of measure 60°.
The length along the circle between the two intersection points is a bit larger than 1, since the straight line distance is equal to 1.

If you move the 2nd radius slightly clockwise the right amount, you'll get an arc length that is exactly 1. The central angle between the first radius and the repositioned radius will be a few degrees less than 60°, approximately 57.3°. That's the degree measure of 1 radian.
LCKurtz said:
Now say you have an arc of length ##s## subtended by a central angle ##\theta## measured in radians. Then, since the arc length is proportional to the central angle and a central angle of ##\theta= 1## radian subtends an arc of length ##r##,$$
\frac s \theta = \frac r 1$$which gives ##s = r\theta##.
 

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