Inverse mapping theorem & local inverses

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The discussion revolves around the inverse mapping theorem and local inverses in the context of transformations defined by functions of two variables. Participants are tasked with computing the determinant of the Jacobian matrix and finding local inverses for given transformations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss methods for solving the equations derived from the transformations to express variables x and y in terms of u and v. There is confusion regarding the selection of positive or negative roots in the context of local inverses.

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Several participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify the reasoning behind the selection of specific solutions for the local inverses. There is an ongoing exploration of how to handle multiple potential solutions and the implications of restricting variables.

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Participants note the importance of the conditions under which local inverses exist, particularly the restriction of x to non-zero values to ensure uniqueness in the inverse function. There is also mention of the absence of detailed steps in the provided solutions, leading to confusion about the process.

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[Related concepts: Inverse mapping theorem, transformations and coordinate systems]

1) For each of the following transformations (u,v) = f(x,y), (i) compute det Df, (ii) find formulas for the local inverses of f when they exist.
a) u=x^2, v=y/x
b) u=(e^x) cos y, v=(e^x) sin y



I got part (i) easily, but I don't understand part (iii) at all.

Here are the answers from the solutions manual:
For 1a)(iii), the answer is f^-1 (u,v) = (sqrt u, v (sqrt u) )
For 1b)(iii), the answer is
x= ln(u^2 + v^2) / 2
y is given up to multiples of 2pi by arctan(v/u) when u>0, pi/2 - arctan(u/v) when v>0, pi + arctan(v/u) when u<0, 3pi/2 - arctan(u/v) when v<0

But they didn't show any of the steps, nor do they show me how they arrive at the answers. Can someone please explain this part? How exactly can I find the formula for the local inverse? I am terribly confused...

Thanks a million!
 
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kingwinner said:
But they didn't show any of the steps, nor do they show me how they arrive at the answers. Can someone please explain this part? How exactly can I find the formula for the local inverse? I am terribly confused...
You have two equations. Solve for x and y.
 
The first one should be fairly easy. In the second one what you need to do is eliminate x so that you can solve for y in terms of u and v only and then eliminate y so that you can solve for x in terms of u and v only.

If you're stuck on solving for x and y, then just consider u^2 + v^2 and u/v.
 
The crucial point is what Hurkyl said: solve u= x2, v= y/x for x and y in terms of u and v. Try it. If you have difficulty get back to us.
 
1a)(iii) Solving for x and y, I get x=+/-sqrt u, y=+/-v (sqrt u), but the answer says that f^-1 (u,v) = (sqrt u, v (sqrt u) ), they only take the positive signs, this is what I don't understand...

In the second one what you need to do is eliminate x so that you can solve for y in terms of u and v only and then eliminate y so that you can solve for x in terms of u and v only.
How can I do so?

Thanks!
 
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kingwinner said:
1a)(iii) Solving for x and y, I get x=+/-u, y=+/-vu, but the answer says that f^-1 (u,v) = (sqrt u, v (sqrt u) ), they only take the positive signs, this is what I don't understand...
A function does not have two values! Since you say you got part i easily, I presume you showed that there is a local inverse as long as x is not 0. You can guarantee a local inverse by restricting x to be positive or negative. If you restrict x to be positive, the "local" inverse function is x= \sqrt{u}, y= v\sqrt{u}. If you restrict x to be negative, the "local" inverse function is x= -\sqrt{u}, y= -v\sqrt{u}. Each part has a unique inverse function- you can't write them together.

How can I do so?

Thanks!
 
HallsofIvy said:
A function does not have two values! Since you say you got part i easily, I presume you showed that there is a local inverse as long as x is not 0. You can guarantee a local inverse by restricting x to be positive or negative. If you restrict x to be positive, the "local" inverse function is x= \sqrt{u}, y= v\sqrt{u}. If you restrict x to be negative, the "local" inverse function is x= -\sqrt{u}, y= -v\sqrt{u}. Each part has a unique inverse function- you can't write them together.
Yes, I showed that there is a local inverse as long as x is not 0


So now there are two answers to (iii) x= \sqrt{u}, y= v\sqrt{u} and x= -\sqrt{u}, y= -v\sqrt{u}.
Now how can I decide which one to take? If I just take one of them, would it still be a complete answer? Which one is the correct answer that the question is actually looking for?
 
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kingwinner said:
Yes, I showed that there is a local inverse as long as x is not 0


So now there are two answers to (iii) x= \sqrt{u}, y= v\sqrt{u} and x= -\sqrt{u}, y= -v\sqrt{u}.
Now how can I decide which one to take? If I just take one of them, would it still be a complete answer? Which one is the correct answer that the question is actually looking for?

Can someone please explain this part? I really want to understand it...Thanks!
 

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