Investigate Limit of Piecewise Function

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The discussion revolves around investigating the limit of a piecewise function as x approaches a certain value, specifically focusing on the behavior of the function at that point and the implications of continuity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the limits from both the left and right sides of the function as x approaches 2, questioning the existence of the limit based on the function's values and continuity.

Discussion Status

The conversation reflects differing interpretations of the graph and the values at specific points. Some participants assert that the limit does not exist due to discrepancies between one-sided limits, while others challenge the application of limit concepts based on function values at the point of interest.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the notation used for limits and the specific value of c, which has not been explicitly stated in all posts. Participants also mention the presence of a hole in the graph affecting the determination of limits.

nycmathguy
Homework Statement
Graphs & Limits
Relevant Equations
Piecewise Function
My apologies. I posted the correct problem with the wrong set of instructions. It it a typo at my end. Here is the correct set of instructions for 28:

Use the graph to investigate limit of f(x) as x→c. If the limit does not exist, explain why.

For (a), the limit is 1.

For (b), the limit DOES NOT EXIST.

You say?

For (c), the LHL does not = RHL.

I conclude the limit DOES NOT EXIST.
 

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nycmathguy said:
For (a), the limit is 1.
How is that possible? 1 is not in the domain of the function as x -> 2, just when you GET TO 2.

I think the problem here is that you are using the concept of "limit" when it should not be applied. The VALUE of the function is 2 when x=2. Period.
 
phinds said:
How is that possible? 1 is not in the domain of the function as x -> 2, just when you GET TO 2.

I think the problem here is that you are using the concept of "limit" when it should not be applied. The VALUE of the function is 2 when x=2. Period.
Yes, but ##\displaystyle{\lim_{x \nearrow c}f(x)=1}##. ##f(2)## cannot be determined.
 
nycmathguy said:
Homework Statement:: Graphs & Limits
Relevant Equations:: Piecewise Function

Use the graph to investigate the following:

(a) lim of f(x) as x→2 from the left side.

(b) lim of f(x) as x→2 from the right side.

(c) lim of f(x) as x→2.

For (a), the limit is 1.

For (b), the limit is 2.

For (c), the LHL does not = RHL.
You should say ##x \to c## not ##x \to 2##. The last one means, that the ##f(x)## is not continuous at ##x=c##. ##f(c)=2## but ##\lim_{x\to c} f(x)## has no determined value, because both possible paths lead to a different value.
nycmathguy said:
I conclude the limit for y = f(x) DNE.
?
 
fresh_42 said:
Yes, but ##\displaystyle{\lim_{x \nearrow c}f(x)=1}##. ##f(2)## cannot be determined.
We are interpreting the graph in opposite ways. I interpret the black to dot to be a value and the white dot to be empty and you are interpreting it the opposite way. Is there are standard for this?

EDIT: your follow-on post clarifies this
 
phinds said:
We are interpreting the graph in opposite ways. I interpret the black to dot to be a value and the white dot to be empty and you are interpreting it the opposite way. Is there are standard for this?
Me, too. But you supposed ##c=2## which hasn't been said.
 
fresh_42 said:
Me, too. But you supposed ##c=2## which hasn't been said.
see my EDIT
 
phinds said:
How is that possible? 1 is not in the domain of the function as x -> 2, just when you GET TO 2.

I think the problem here is that you are using the concept of "limit" when it should not be applied. The VALUE of the function is 2 when x=2. Period.

See my editing work.
 
fresh_42 said:
Yes, but ##\displaystyle{\lim_{x \nearrow c}f(x)=1}##. ##f(2)## cannot be determined.

See my editing work. If f(2) cannot be determined due to the hole at (1, 2), the LHL DOES NOT = RHL. I conclude the limit does not exist.

You say?
 
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nycmathguy said:
See my editing work. If f(2) cannot be determined due to the hole at (1, 2), the LHL DOES NOT = RHL. I conclude the limit does not exist.

You say?
The (two-sided) limit cannot not detemined, ##f(c)=2## can, as can the one-sided limits.
 
  • #11
fresh_42 said:
Me, too. But you supposed ##c=2## which hasn't been said.

My apologies. I posted the correct problem with the wrong set of instructions. It it a typo at my end. Here is the correct set of instructions:

Use the graph to investigate limit of f(x) as
x→c. If the limit does not exist, explain why.
 
  • #12
phinds said:
see my EDIT
My apologies. I posted the correct problem with the wrong set of instructions. It it a typo at my end. Here is the correct set of instructions:

Use the graph to investigate limit of f(x) as
x→c. If the limit does not exist, explain why.
 

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