Ionic Form of KI + H2O Reaction

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The ionic reaction of potassium iodide (KI) with water (H2O) can be represented as 2KI + H2O ⇌ K2O + 2HI, which in ionic form is 2K+ + 2I- + H+ + OH- ⇌ 2K+ + O2- + 2H+ + 2I-. The discussion highlights the importance of hydroxide ions in the reaction, as indicated by the color change of phenolphthalein in the presence of hydroxide ions and molecular iodine. Participants debated the coefficients for the electron transfer in the reaction and clarified misconceptions regarding the presence of O2- in solution. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of redox reactions and the necessity of accurate chemical representation.

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We need to know what the products of KI + H2O in ionic form.
 
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The reaction should be

2KI+H_{2}O\rightleftharpoons K_{2}O+2HI

which in ionic form

2K^{+}+2I^{-}+H^{+}+OH^{-}\rightleftharpoons 2K^{+}+O^{2-}+2H^{+}+2I^{-}

I don't see any redox here...

Daniel.
 
THe labis on oxidation reduction. It says that ppt turns pink in the presence of hyrdroxide ions and the starch will turn black/blue in the presence of molecular iodine. We figured that this meant that in the equation that this meant in the products their will be a hydroxide ions and an I molecule. We thought that the answer you gave us was right but our teacher said that we were closer when we showed him KI + H2O--> OH + K + I2 + H
 
Yes,i didn't think of that option.There it is.Can u find the coefficients by accomplishing the electron transfer ?

aK^{+}+bI^{-}+cH^{+}+dOH^{-}\rightleftharpoons eK^{+}+fOH^{-}+gI_{2}+h H_{2}\uparrow

Daniel.
 
yeah we should be able to, um what are the a,b,c,d,e,f,g for?
 
Coefficents,like 1,2,1/2,3/2,3.

So who's getting oxidated and who's getting reduced...?

Daniel.
 
umm I haven't done it yet;P
 
It's not funny.If u haven't done redox reactions in school,why do you bother with this problem...?:rolleyes:

Daniel.
 
Me thinks something is a miss here. Was it hydroxide or peroxide ?
 
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it was hydroxide
 
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airheadan said:
THe labis on oxidation reduction. It says that ppt turns pink in the presence of hyrdroxide ions and the starch will turn black/blue in the presence of molecular iodine.

OK what is ppt ?
 
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the ppt is phenalthailene...and the reaction is K + I + H2O --> KOH + I + H
 
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teacher said that we were closer when we showed him KI + H2O--> OH + K + I2 + H

Alright, I would imagine that this is a simple dissociation reaction, KI_{(s)}+H_2O \rightarrow K^{+}_{(aq)}+I^{-}_{(aq)}

The starch test will not work without molecular iodide however, I2. You'll need both I2 and I-, for the iodine complex involving I3-.
 
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airheadan said:
the ppt is phenalthailene...and the reaction is K + I + H2O --> KOH + I + H

OK I'm highly dyslexic, but did you mean phenolphthalein ? There still is something a miss here (like what would oxidize the I-).
 
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K + I + H2O --> KOH + I + H

potassium reacts with water? Never actually encountered this before, I though it would be a spectator ion. I've read about this and it seems that KI is dissolved in water to provide I-, subsequently I2 is added to form I3-, which can form complexes with starch conterparts to form a colored solution.

I'm somewhat sensitive about the way some high schools deal with redox reactions as at times they are completely misleading and inaccurate. I've had a post in my forum a couple of months ago regarding a high school chemistry competition of which one of the answers provided turned out to be completely inaccurate. I couple of students decided to seek help online for references and quotes.
 

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