Convergent Sequence of Square Roots

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The problem involves a sequence defined recursively by S_{1}=1 and S_{n+1}=\sqrt{2+S_n}. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that the sequence converges and identifying its limit.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the assumption that the limit exists and explore the potential value of the limit. There is an emphasis on showing that the sequence is increasing and bounded, with some participants questioning the validity of their approaches to these aspects.

Discussion Status

Several participants have engaged in exploring the conditions under which the sequence is increasing and bounded. Guidance has been offered regarding the inequalities that need to be satisfied to support these claims, though no consensus on the final conclusion has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is a focus on proving properties of the sequence rather than deriving a final answer.

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Homework Statement



Let S_{1}=1 and S_{n+1}=\sqrt{2+S_n}

Show that \left\{S_n\right\} converges and find its limit.

Hint: First assume that the limit exists, then what is the possible value of the limit? Second, show that the sequence is increasing and bounded. Finally, follow the definition of convergence to show that the sequence converges.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Well it is pretty clear that this converges to 2, so that's a start.

I am having difficulty constructing a good way to show that the sequence is increasing and bounded. Any help getting started would be nice.

Thanks!
 
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gajohnson said:

Homework Statement



Let S_{1}=1 and S_{n+1}=\sqrt{2+S_n}

Show that \left\{S_n\right\} converges and find its limit.

Hint: First assume that the limit exists, then what is the possible value of the limit? Second, show that the sequence is increasing and bounded. Finally, follow the definition of convergence to show that the sequence converges.

Homework Equations



NA

The Attempt at a Solution



Well it is pretty clear that this converges to 2, so that's a start.

I am having difficulty constructing a good way to show that the sequence is increasing and bounded. Any help getting started would be nice.

Thanks!

To show it's increasing you want to show sqrt(x+2)>x, right? For what range of x is that true? Try to solve the inequality.
 
Dick said:
To show it's increasing you want to show sqrt(x+2)>x, right? For what range of x is that true? Try to solve the inequality.

Well because S_1=1 is given, the sequence is strictly increasing for x\in[1,2), and the sequence is monotonically increasing for x\in[1,2].

Is showing this by solving the inequality enough to claim that the sequence is increasing and also bounded by 2 (since solving the above as an equality gives 2)?
 
gajohnson said:
Well because S_1=1 is given, the sequence is strictly increasing for x\in[1,2), and the sequence is monotonically increasing for x\in[1,2].

Is showing this by solving the inequality enough to claim that the sequence is increasing and also bounded by 2 (since solving the above as an equality gives 2)?

Yes, showing the inequality for the range x in [1,2) will show it. To show it's bounded you need to show the inequality sqrt(x+2)<2 holds in that range.
 
Dick said:
Yes, showing the inequality for the range x in [1,2) will show it. To show it's bounded you need to show the inequality sqrt(x+2)<2 holds in that range.

I believe I've got it now. Thanks for your help!
 

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