Iron in Mesophere: Impact on Global Warming

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concentration of iron in the mesosphere and its potential impact on global warming. Participants explore the relevance of iron in the context of atmospheric processes and climate change, considering various factors that may influence these dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the concentration of iron in the mesosphere changes significantly and its potential effects on global warming.
  • Another participant suggests that there are more active gases and processes in the mesosphere that may be more important for climate effects, emphasizing the complexity of the atmospheric system.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the presence of iron in the mesosphere, asking for clarification and suggesting the possibility of confusion with ions.
  • One participant notes the existence of an iron layer between 80-100 km in the polar mesosphere, referencing lidar measurements.
  • Another participant mentions that iron is present due to burnt-up meteors and speculates about the historical rates of meteor bombardment and its implications for iron concentration and global warming.
  • This same participant expresses doubt about the significance of iron's influence on global warming, suggesting it may not be a priority in scientific research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the significance of iron in the mesosphere or its impact on global warming. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the relevance of iron compared to other atmospheric factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of atmospheric interactions and the potential for various factors to influence climate, but do not resolve the specific role of iron in this context.

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Does the concentration of iron in the mesophere change significantly and
can it effect global warming?
 
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I do not know about iron in the mesosphere. There are many other more active gasses, elements, and processes in the mesosphere which i can imagine to be more important in the effect of climate. However, when you append the global warming as questino, i must make you realize that everything affects global warming. Its a system-> the entire atmosphere sun, galactic rays, intergalactic rays, universe. Now, the question is how much of each and how they are coupled...and what we can do about it.
 
iron? as in Fe?

I'm sorry, but I didn't know that there was any iron in the mesosphere. Maybe you meant ions?

If you didn't & I'm just being too presumptious could you perhaps provide a link?

Cheers
 
OK, I just did a wiki and found out that there's a load of iron there from burnt up meteors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesosphere

As for the effects on global warming, who knows? I don't lol...
The fact is though, that the number of meteors used to be a lot higher back in the early days (maybe we didn't even have a mesosphere then?) and has since tailed off to a more-or-less constant rate of bombardment. I guess that if the residence time for iron is low enough (considering it's so dense I don't think it could stay there so long?) some kind of equilibrium would be reached and the level would be pretty much constant.

Whatever, the fact is we have no influence or control over this so I doubt it's really at the top of anyones scientific agenda.
 

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