Irreducibility and finite fields

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The discussion revolves around the irreducibility of polynomials in the context of finite fields, specifically examining a polynomial related to an element T and its roots. Participants are exploring the implications of separability and irreducibility in this algebraic structure.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the need to demonstrate that a polynomial has no roots in the finite field k, with some suggesting testing specific values. There is also a consideration of the implications of T being an extended element and its effect on the irreducibility of the polynomial.

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Some participants are actively questioning their assumptions and reasoning, particularly regarding the nature of the field and the roots of the polynomial. There is acknowledgment of mistakes and a request for confirmation on the interpretations being made, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants note the specific characteristics of the finite field being discussed, including its elements and the implications of working with extended elements. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions and properties related to irreducibility and separability in this context.

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Trying to do i) and iii) on this past exam paper

For part i) I'm pretty stumped

I've said that the possible roots of the polynomial are +- all the factors of T

In particular rt(T) needs to be a factor of T but this can't be possible?

Doesn't sound too good but its the best I've got.

Part iii) I know this means that every element in K is seperable over k, i.e that the minimal polynomials of elements in K are seperable, where they have no repeated roots.

Not sure how to apply this though..

Maybe K = k(rt(T))

so the minimal polynomial of K is X^2 - T which has repeated root rt(T) so it is inseperable?
 
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For part i:

[STRIKE]Because this is a finite field, you must show that the polynomial g(X) has no roots in k. Because k is a finite field of 2 elements, you can just try plugging in 0 and 1 because k = {0,1}.

So g(X) is irreducible if and only if 0^2-T is not equal to zero and 1^2-T is not equal to zero. Since T is an extended element onto k and is therefore not equal to either 0 or 1, which is what we need to make the above two equations equal to zero, I think that we can safely draw our conclusion. What do you think?[/STRIKE]

edit: I'm dumb. i'll rethink this.
 
micaele said:
For part i:

Because this is a finite field, you must show that the polynomial g(X) has no roots in k. Because k is a finite field of 2 elements, you can just try plugging in 0 and 1 because k = {0,1}.

So g(X) is irreducible if and only if 0^2-T is not equal to zero and 1^2-T is not equal to zero. Since T is an extended element onto k, I think we can safely draw our conclusion. What do you think?

isn't k = {0, 1, T, 1+T} since k = {a + bT | a, b in {0,1}}

Otherwise I see what you mean. Thanks for the reply
 
yeah you're completely right and i noticed my mistake right after i posted that. i overlooked the whole extended element thing. my bad.
 
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