Is 1 in the Closure of (2,3] in the Standard Topology on the Real Numbers?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of closure in topology, specifically examining whether the point 1 is included in the closure of the interval (2,3] within the standard topology on the real numbers.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the closure of the set (2,3] and expresses confusion about why 1 is not included. Participants question the definitions of terms used, such as "Real #s" and "U," and seek clarification on the definition of closure and the complement of a set.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring definitions and clarifying terminology. Some guidance has been offered regarding the standard topology and the definition of closure, but no consensus has been reached on the original poster's conclusion.

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There is a mention of the need for clarity on the definitions of open and closed sets in the context of the problem, as well as the specific definition of closure being used. The original poster's notation and terminology have also been questioned, indicating potential misunderstandings that may affect the discussion.

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Hello All, I am experiencing Adventures in Topology. So far, so good, but I have an issue here.

In the topological space (Real #s, U), show that 1 is not an element of Cl((2,3]).

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The closed subsets of our topological space are the converses of the given set. Over the set of real numbers, in an open topology, we have a converse of (-inf, 2] u (3,inf)

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By that definition, 1 is most certainly an element of Cl((2,3]), and I am simply not seeing otherwise. Any thoughts?

Thank you,

SY
 
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What do you mean by #s and U? What exactly are your open sets, or likewise closed sets? Does Cl mean closure? In addition I assume by converse you mean the complement, but I'm not sure.

How is the closure of a set defined?
 
fresh_42 said:
What do you mean by #s and U? What exactly are your open sets, or likewise closed sets? Does Cl mean closure? In addition I assume by converse you mean the complement, but I'm not sure.

How is the closure of a set defined?

Real #s is the best notation I could think of for the set of Real Numbers. The set (2,3] is neither open nor closed under open topology, which I noted as U, in the fashion of my test. Cl is a closed space. As an example, in the space (Real #s, U), Cl((0,1)) = [0,1], the compliment of the interval (0,1) over the set of real numbers.

With that in mind, again, I am still not seeing how to exclude 1 from the interval of Cl ((2,3]).
 
To get the wording straight. You consider the topological space ##\mathbb{R}## with the standard topology, which is induced by the Euclidean metric, which measures distances as ##d(x,y) = |x-y|##. Now ##1 \notin (2,3]## and you want to show, whether ##1## can be in the closure of this interval or not. Here is the essential part of your conclusion, because it requires a definition of the closure of a set. This can be done in several ways, purely topological or by means of the metric. But you have said, that ##Cl((2,3])=[2,3]## according to your example. So where is the problem?

Otherwise, you have to say, which definition of a closure of a set you want to use, before we can achieve a formal proof. What does your book say?
 

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