Is a Circle Considered a Function?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether a circle can be considered a function, exploring definitions of functions, coordinate systems, and the implications of geometric figures in relation to functional mappings. The scope includes conceptual clarifications and technical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a mapping with more than one ordinate (y) for a particular abscissa (x) does not describe a function, questioning if a circle qualifies as a function.
  • Others reference the "vertical test," suggesting that while a circle itself is not a function, portions of it can be represented as functions.
  • There is a discussion about semantics, with some arguing that the question of whether a circle is a function lacks meaning since a circle is a geometrical figure.
  • Participants note that the classification of a parabola as a function depends on the coordinate system used, paralleling the discussion about circles.
  • One participant states that in Cartesian coordinates, a circle does not correspond to a function, while in polar coordinates, it does.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that a function is a mapping, and since a circle is a set of points, it cannot be classified as a function in the Cartesian system, though it can in polar or parametric systems.
  • Some participants propose specific functions, such as f(x)=√(1-x²) and f:[0,2π) → ℝ², f(x)=(cos(x),sin(x)), that can represent circular plots, raising questions about whether these representations are valid or considered "cheating."
  • There is a suggestion that the original question conflates the concepts of a graph and a function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the classification of circles as functions, depending on the context and coordinate systems discussed.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in definitions and interpretations of functions, particularly in relation to geometric figures and varying coordinate systems. The implications of these definitions are not resolved.

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I was brought up believing that when a mapping had more than one ordinate (y) for a particular abscissa (x), it did not describe a function. So is a circle not a function?
 
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correct.....
 
The so-called "vertical test" will always tell u the answer.In the case of the circle,there are an infinite number of portions/arches (is this the word?? :confused: ) which are functions.

Daniel.
 
<pointing out what a function is> A function from where to where?
 
There is some semantics involved.
Since a circle is a geometrical figure, the wording: 'is a circle a function' has no meaning.
For the same reason, a parabola is not a function, but the graph of the function is.

...doh, I `m getting old and picky. Nevermind... :redface:
 
Indeed, even if we interpret "is a parabola a function" to mean "is a relation whose graph is a parabola a function" we would have to specify the coordinate system. A parabola whose axis is parallel to the y-axis corresponds to a function but exactly the same parabola, in a rotated coordinate system would not be.

(Notice I switched from "circle" to "parabola". A circle, in any coordinate system, does not correspond to a function.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
A circle, in any coordinate system, does not correspond to a function.
In any carthesian coordinate system.
In a polar coordinate system, it does.
 
I mathematics, a function is a sort of black box - you put something in, and it spits something out. (There are other ways to think of them as well.) Now, you ask whether a circle is a function, and the answer is clearly no, since a circle is typically a set of points.

In the familiar (I suppose it could be called cartesian) system, there is no function that whose plot is a circle. In a polar or parametric system functions can readily have circular plots.

It is also relatively easy to see that:
f(x)=\sqrt{1-x}
generates the plot of a half circle - which can often be used instead.
 
NateTG said:
f(x)=\sqrt{1-x}
generates the plot of a half circle - which can often be used instead.
That is: f(x)=\sqrt{1-x^2}
 
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The plot of
f:[0,2\pi) \to \mathbb{R}^2
f(x)=(cos(x),sin(x))

is a circle.
Or is this cheating?
 
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This is the "non-cartesian function" people were mentioning. The question, from what i can tell, boils down to the fact that the OP thinks a graph and a function are the same thing.
 

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