Is a PHD in physics required to do reasearch and lab work?

In summary, the conversation discusses the qualifications and requirements for a research or lab position in the field of physics. It highlights the importance of a PhD for a career in research, but also mentions alternative paths and positions that do not necessarily require a PhD. The conversation also mentions the changing landscape of physics research and the difference between simply learning physics and being a physicist.
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I'm currently still in high school (no rush!) and am thinking about my future. Physics interests me, and I was wondering how far one would have to get on the step-ladder or titles to be qualified for a research or lab position as my job. I'd like to do what scientists did back then, but I'm not sure how to do it when the world's so busy.
*PhD, sorry!
 
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I'm currently still in high school (no rush!) and am thinking about my future. Physics interests me, and I was wondering how far one would have to get on the step-ladder or titles to be qualified for a research or lab position as my job. I'd like to do what scientists did back then, but I'm not sure how to do it when the world's so busy.
*PhD, sorry!

If you want to be a research scientist, you really do need to have a PhD - think of a PhD like an apprenticeship for science. The first "real job" most scientists have is called a "Postdoctoral appointment" (aka a post-doc), which, as you can tell from the name, implies that you've just finished a PhD. The exception is someone like a research assistant, but in my experience in physics, they tend to be (a) rare, and (b) short-term positions before a person goes and starts a PhD.

There are other jobs at labs though - engineers and technical officers will tend to have engineering degrees, but don't always need a PhD. They aren't scientists, but they enable science. Ditto administrative roles.
 
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You can be a lab technician at different levels of education, without a PhD.

Do realize that physics today is done differently from physics 'back then'. Compare the LHC with a many famous names from the old days. Huge teams with insane equipment vs just one person in a small lab.

So more and more supporting staff is needed.
 
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You definitely don't need a phd to do lab work.

But you should be aware that the majority of that lab work non-phd's do is outrageously boring.
 
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I'm currently still in high school (no rush!) and am thinking about my future. Physics interests me, and I was wondering how far one would have to get on the step-ladder or titles to be qualified for a research or lab position as my job. I'd like to do what scientists did back then, but I'm not sure how to do it when the world's so busy.
*PhD, sorry!

Read this essay, and figure out for yourself if you think that an undergraduate degree can equip you with the same set of knowledge and skills to be a physics researcher (or what in the US we term as a Principle Investigator or PI).

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/so-you-want-to-be-a-physicist.240792/

Again, there is a very distinct difference between just learning physics versus being a physicist. You might be able to do the former by just reading books and stuff, but the latter is a career and a vocation, and requires a lot more skills and knowledge beyond what is printed on papers and books.

Zz.
 
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I'm currently still in high school (no rush!) and am thinking about my future. Physics interests me, and I was wondering how far one would have to get on the step-ladder or titles to be qualified for a research or lab position as my job. I'd like to do what scientists did back then, but I'm not sure how to do it when the world's so busy.
*PhD, sorry!
A PhD is not necessary for one to do research, but without a PhD, e.g., if one has only a MS degree, then one would probably need some years of experience to demonstrate one's knowledge and capability. Rather than be concerned about academic credentials, it would be worthwhile to explore scientific or technological areas of interest, and see what opportunities one might pursue. Physics and engineering are very broad areas.
 
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While a PhD may not be inherently required to do research, it is required in most cases to get a position doing research. If one has a bachelor's degree, they will be competing for jobs against people who have a PhD. The PhD is going to win almost every time. For all practical purposes, one could safely say that a PhD is required to do research in physics.
 
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Thank you all so much!
 

1. What is a PHD in physics?

A PHD in physics, or Doctor of Philosophy in Physics, is a graduate degree that requires a significant amount of coursework and research in the field of physics. It is the highest level of education one can obtain in physics and is typically required for advanced research positions in academia or industry.

2. Is a PHD in physics necessary to do research and lab work?

While a PHD in physics is not always required, it is highly recommended for those seeking a career in research and lab work. A PHD program provides extensive training and experience in conducting research, analyzing data, and communicating scientific findings, all of which are essential for conducting successful research and lab work.

3. Can someone with a Master's degree in physics do research and lab work?

Yes, individuals with a Master's degree in physics can also conduct research and lab work. However, they may have limited opportunities for leading their own research projects and may be more likely to work under the supervision of someone with a PHD.

4. Are there other qualifications besides a PHD in physics that are necessary for research and lab work?

In addition to a PHD in physics, other qualifications that are important for research and lab work include a strong understanding of scientific principles, excellent problem-solving skills, attention to detail, and the ability to work well in a team. Proficiency in specialized software and laboratory equipment may also be required depending on the specific research field.

5. Can someone with a PHD in a different field do research and lab work in physics?

Yes, individuals with a PHD in a related field, such as engineering or mathematics, may also be able to conduct research and lab work in physics. However, they may need to acquire additional training and knowledge in physics through coursework or on-the-job experience to be successful in the field.

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