Is assassination better than terrorism?

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Assassination is defined as the targeted killing of a specific individual, while terrorism involves the indiscriminate killing of random individuals. The moral distinction between the two is debated, with some arguing that assassination can be justified under certain circumstances, such as eliminating a dictator like Hitler, while terrorism is inherently wrong due to its targeting of innocents. The discussion raises questions about the ethics of violence, particularly in the context of war and state actions that may result in collateral damage, blurring the lines between assassination and terrorism. Participants express that both acts are generally immoral, but the motivations and consequences play a crucial role in evaluating their moral standing. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexity of moral judgments in violent actions and the impact of definitions on these discussions.

Which is better: Assassination or terrorism?

  • Assassination is morally better

    Votes: 27 51.9%
  • Terrorism is morally better

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • They are morally the same

    Votes: 16 30.8%
  • They can't be compared (explain why)

    Votes: 8 15.4%

  • Total voters
    52
  • #51
Rader said:
...You say morality is an absolute and then you say it is not...What difference does it make what word you use to kill, assassinate, execute, kill or murder? It is morally wrong..
No, let me explain my philosophy of morality. All forms of "killing" are not morally wrong, not when morality is held to be an absolute right of the individual human being. Thus, I attack your child with a knife and as I strike and break the skin on the skull you shoot me, your child lives, I die--what immorality is attained from this action of yours ?--none. Why ? Because the absolute right to life of your child is an absolute, and anyone that attempts to take away that right, by their actions, thus forfeits their own right to life.
 
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  • #52
Rade said:
No, let me explain my philosophy of morality. All forms of "killing" are not morally wrong, not when morality is held to be an absolute right of the individual human being. Thus, I attack your child with a knife and as I strike and break the skin on the skull you shoot me, your child lives, I die--what immorality is attained from this action of yours ?--none. Why ? Because the absolute right to life of your child is an absolute, and anyone that attempts to take away that right, by their actions, thus forfeits their own right to life.
Then this morality is not absolute because you say there are situations where it IS morally acceptable to kill. You can't say a right to life is morally absolute unless you then say that this is absolute given the condition that it does not interfere with another's right to life. From there, you then have to examine those situations that are "grey" I'm sure if you ask a terrorist, they will say that their, or their children's life is in danger, and believe it.So, in these grey areas, who decides who is right.

That's why killing is absolutely morally wrong in ALL situations, in which case you have adopted an absolutist philosophy, or it is sometimes acceptable, in which case you have adopted a relativist philosophy.
 
  • #53
Rade said:
No, let me explain my philosophy of morality. All forms of "killing" are not morally wrong, not when morality is held to be an absolute right of the individual human being. Thus, I attack your child with a knife and as I strike and break the skin on the skull you shoot me, your child lives, I die--what immorality is attained from this action of yours ?--none. Why ? Because the absolute right to life of your child is an absolute, and anyone that attempts to take away that right, by their actions, thus forfeits their own right to life.

Well thanks for explaining your philosophy clearly. I knew semantics was the culprit again. Although I said OK I agree with your last statement, it is clear that you interpret it one way and I quite another. My philosophy is that killing be it terrorism or assassination are both evil and morally wrong. The problem is that we humans interpret this to suite are own means and call it justice. If my philosophy is correct and morals are absolute, truly absolute, humans one day will not kill for any reason. I now see why you think it was moral to execute Caesar.
 
  • #54
daveb said:
Then this morality is not absolute because you say there are situations where it IS morally acceptable to kill. You can't say a right to life is morally absolute unless you then say that this is absolute given the condition that it does not interfere with another's right to life. From there, you then have to examine those situations that are "grey" I'm sure if you ask a terrorist, they will say that their, or their children's life is in danger, and believe it.So, in these grey areas, who decides who is right.
No, there is only the appearence of contradiction. With moral absolutes, rights can be abrigated. If you intend to take the life of someone else, you abrigate the right to your own life. This is based more on existential phisosophy then traditionalism. Also, the ananlogy you used of a terrorist is faulty, because it doesn't matter what they say or beleive, the end result is the proof of right or wrong. Killing innocent people cannot be justified, because these people have done nothing to abrigate their own rights.

Second, and here the overlapping issues tend to make things appear relativistic, you do not have a right to take the law into your own hands. The government is the embodiement of the people, meant for the sole purpose to protect and support the society it is made of. Under this protection it has the sole right to punish wrongdoers. Therefore, you alone cannot kill someone who murdered your child, only the government has that power. However, if the government is unable to do its duty, such as the case where your child is about to be stabbed, that moral decision defaults to the only place available: you. You then, the only member of society, i.e. the government, have the ability to due its duty, so you have every right to do so. None of this is dependent on variables that cannot be defined; it is an absolute system that works.

I will grant you that there are several reasons to think that absolutism leads to "grey" areas and ends up as relative. However, absolutism is based in every way on the philosophy of dualism, and when ever there are two quantities the posibility of complexity increases exponentialy with everything there is. Consider, 1+1=2, then 2+1=3, and then 3+2=5, etc. With enough overlapping incidents, objects and time even something as simple as dualism can appear so complexly conveluted that it is easy to throw up your hands and declare it to impossible to be real, and adobt relativism.

So, back on topic, this theory of morrality would state that assissination is better, since it is aimed at the person who is causing harm. I would judge it on a case by case scenario though, balancing the actions of the victim against the results of his actions. If someone is actively harming other people, I see no reason why assassination, if it is the only option, should not be taken, since it leads to a greater good, while minimilizing the damage. After all, isn't it better that one guilty man die to improve the lives of others, rather then have innocents killed simply to make a point? That being said, I go back to my second paragraph with the rights of governments and citizens. An act of assassination can never, by inherent nature, fall under the rules of self-defense, so it cannot be placed in the hands of private citizens.
 
  • #55
Dawguard said:
So, back on topic, this theory of morality would state that assassination is better, since it is aimed at the person who is causing harm.
But, as you state, not absolutely better, for the person you assassinate may in fact have done no harm to others. Consider Martin L. King--where lies his harm. Was the assassination of M. L. King "better" than a single terrorist action that just occurred in Irag today ? Perhaps the problem lies with how the OP was worded, it is irrelevant if action x is "better" than y when both x and y are immoral under most conditions.
 
  • #56
Rade said:
But, as you state, not absolutely better, for the person you assassinate may in fact have done no harm to others. Consider Martin L. King--where lies his harm. Was the assassination of M. L. King "better" than a single terrorist action that just occurred in Irag today ? Perhaps the problem lies with how the OP was worded, it is irrelevant if action x is "better" than y when both x and y are immoral under most conditions.
With M.L King, his assassination was not limitted to his death. It sparked off riots that killed several more people, so the end result was not one death, but many. Unless the question is considered in a vacuum, it can be hard to determine the extent of the injury. However, if assassination is defined as killing one person, and terrorism is the indiscriminate murder of several people, the simple size of damage done would make terrorism inherently worse. Also coming into play is the semantics of assassination. Was M. L. King's death a murder, or an assassination? What is the difference between the two, and to which does the question point? I think it needs more clarity by the OP before it can be fully answered.
 
  • #57
daveb said:
Then this morality is not absolute because you say there are situations where it IS morally acceptable to kill. You can't say a right to life is morally absolute unless you then say that this is absolute given the condition that it does not interfere with another's right to life.
There seems to be a little confusion here (not just you, daveb, you just articulated it clearly) about what a "moral absolute" is or what the concept of "moral absolutism" means.

Moral absolutism is simply the concept that moral laws - whatever they are - are applicable everywhere. Ie, that I cannot decide on what is right and wrong for me while you decide what is right and wrong for you. There is only one set of laws and they cover both of us.

Moral absolute/absolutism does not mean that certain general actions are always wrong. Rules and exceptions to those rules can be (and often are) extremely complicated.

Part of the problem here is with the differences between the statements 'the right to life is absolute' and 'the moral code is absolute'. Saying that the right to 'life is absolute' doesn't have anything at all to do with whether the code that right is attached to is an absolutist or relativist code. All it means is that killing is always wrong in that specific code.

Killing is not always wrong in any moral code (that I've heard of, anyway), whether that code is applied absolutely or relatively. In fact, you could have two people accepting two identical codes, with one person believing that the code is absolute/should be applied absolutely and the other believing the code is only for himself and not relevant to anyone else. Murder is a word that means 'unlawful (or immoral) killing', but what exactly constitutes an immoral killing is a difficult question...hence, the specific cases to be discussed in this thread...

Carry on.
 
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