Is Baby Rudin a good choice for first my Real Analysis textbook?

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of "Baby Rudin" as a first textbook for Real Analysis for someone with limited experience in pure mathematics. Participants explore various alternatives and the prerequisites necessary for tackling Rudin effectively.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the appropriateness of Rudin for someone without exposure to proof-based mathematics, suggesting it may lead to frustration.
  • Another participant recommends starting with "Calculus" by Michael Spivak to build a foundation in mathematical thinking before attempting Rudin.
  • Some participants agree with the recommendation of Spivak, emphasizing its role in transitioning to proof-based mathematics.
  • Another suggestion is made for Bartle and Sherbert's "Introduction to Real Analysis" as a middle ground, noted for its systematic approach.
  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with the formatting of Bartle's book but praises Abbott's "Understanding Analysis" for its user-friendliness and concise explanations.
  • Another participant mentions that Abbott's book covers sequences early and includes advanced topics like the category theorem of Baire and basic Fourier analysis.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of problems in some recommended texts, although the problems that do exist are described as interesting and challenging.
  • A participant questions the adequacy of one year of calculus as preparation for Real Analysis.

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Participants generally agree that "Baby Rudin" may not be suitable for someone without a strong background in pure mathematics. Multiple competing views exist regarding alternative texts, with no consensus on a single best option.

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Participants highlight the importance of prior exposure to proof-based mathematics and the varying levels of difficulty among recommended texts, indicating that individual preparation may significantly influence the choice of textbook.

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Summary: Is Baby Rudin a good choice for first Real Analysis textbook for someone without strong pure math background?

I've completed 2 semesters of college calculus, but not "pure math" calculus which is taught to math students. I'm looking for introductory text on Real Analysis and I've heard that Baby Rudin is a classic. However I've heard that it is very dense and requires a good deal of pure math experience. Is this book a good choice for someone with my background, or should I look for other options, also, what other options could be recommended?
 
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What did you see in these college calculus classes? If you did not see ##\epsilon-\delta## proofs and those courses were only computational, don't even think about beginning Rudin. Without the proper background, Rudin will frustrate you until you give up and lose interest.

I recommend to begin with the book "Calculus" by Michael Spivak. Spivak trains you to think like a mathematician, and use intuition to guide you to a correct proof. After that, you can try Rudin but I think Apostol's "Mathematical analysis" is more gentle.
 
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agree 100%
 
Math_QED said:
What did you see in these college calculus classes? If you did not see ##\epsilon-\delta## proofs and those courses were only computational, don't even think about beginning Rudin. Without the proper background, Rudin will frustrate you until you give up and lose interest.

I recommend to begin with the book "Calculus" by Michael Spivak. Spivak trains you to think like a mathematician, and use intuition to guide you to a correct proof. After that, you can try Rudin but I think Apostol's "Mathematical analysis" is more gentle.

You are right, those were courses without any proofs, just computational methods.
 
AlmX said:
You are right, those were courses without any proofs, just computational methods.

Then go with Spivak. He will gently transition you to proof based maths. This book will already be hard enough if it is your first encounter with proof-based mathematics.
 
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If you want a middle ground between Spivak and Rudin, then Bartle and Sherbert's Introduction... is quite reader-friendly. It is not as much fun as Spivak, but it does the job in a systematic manner starting from foundations. It is also a proper first real analysis book.
 
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I kinda disliked the formatting in Bartles book.
I learned Analysis from Abbott: Understanding Analysis. The book is really user friendly and explanations are concise. Bartle supplements Abbot well. I would get both!
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
I kinda disliked the formatting in Bartles book.
I learned Analysis from Abbott: Understanding Analysis. The book is really user friendly and explanations are concise. Bartle supplements Abbot well. I would get both!

I did not read this book, but skimmed through it and it seems definitely a good book. I like that it uses sequences early on and if I remember correctly it also treats interesting stuff like the category theorem of Baire and some basic Fourier analysis.
 
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Math_QED said:
I did not read this book, but skimmed through it and it seems definitely a good book. I like that it uses sequences early on and if I remember correctly it also treats interesting stuff like the category theorem of Baire and some basic Fourier analysis.
Yes. The only issue that I have with the book, like most Springer text, is a lack of problems. But the problems are interesting and some challenging. The section on open and closed sets is very user friendly too.
 
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What is your objective? What is your major? One year of calculus is not preparation for analysis.
 

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