Is Choice of Spinor Representation a Gauge Symmetry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of the choice of spinor representation in the context of the Dirac equation and whether this choice constitutes a gauge symmetry. Participants explore the implications of varying the representation of gamma matrices and spinors, considering both theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the only fixed aspect of the gamma matrices in the Dirac equation is the anticommutation relation, suggesting that the choice of a unitary matrix U to redefine the spinors and gamma matrices may imply a form of gauge freedom.
  • Another participant argues against the idea that this freedom constitutes a gauge symmetry, comparing it to the choice of basis for electric and magnetic fields, which does not represent a gauge symmetry.
  • A subsequent reply questions whether the ability to choose a different basis at each point in spacetime could be considered a gauge symmetry, referencing general relativity as a potential example.
  • Another participant reiterates the comparison to electric and magnetic fields and introduces the idea that the choice of matrix U could be seen as a generalization of the phase choice in gauge symmetry related to electromagnetic interactions, suggesting a possible connection to more complex gauge symmetries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding whether the choice of spinor representation constitutes a gauge symmetry. Multiple competing views are presented, with no consensus reached on the matter.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of definitions and the implications of varying representations, but do not resolve the underlying questions or assumptions regarding gauge symmetries.

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In the Dirac equation, the only thing about the gamma matrices that is "fixed" is the anticommutation rule:

\gamma^\mu \gamma^\nu + \gamma^\nu \gamma^\mu = 2 \eta^{\mu \nu}

We can get an equivalent equation by taking a unitary matrix U and defining new spinors and gamma-matrices via:

\gamma'^\mu = U \gamma^\mu U^{-1}
\psi' = U \psi
\bar{\psi'} = \bar{\psi} U^{-1}

(Actually, it occurs to me now that U doesn't need to be unitary. But if it's not unitary, we need to define \bar{\psi'} = \psi'^\dagger (U U^\dagger)^{-1} \gamma'^0, rather than \bar{\psi'} = \psi'^\dagger \gamma'^0)

My question is whether this freedom to choose a representation is a gauge symmetry. Is there a corresponding gauge field so that we are free to choose U(x^\mu) differently at every point, if we make the corresponding change to the gauge field?
 
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No. It is no more a gauge symmetry than the ability to express the electric and magnetic fields in terms of cartesian basis vectors or spherical polar basis vectors.
 
WannabeNewton said:
No. It is no more a gauge symmetry than the ability to express the electric and magnetic fields in terms of cartesian basis vectors or spherical polar basis vectors.

Well, the choice of a different basis at each point in spacetime IS a gauge symmetry, isn't it? Can't GR be described in those terms?
 
WannabeNewton said:
No. It is no more a gauge symmetry than the ability to express the electric and magnetic fields in terms of cartesian basis vectors or spherical polar basis vectors.

To me, the choice of the matrix U at each point seems like a generalization of the choice of the phase e^{i \phi} at each point. That's the special case where U = e^{i \phi} I. The choice of phase is the gauge symmetry associated with electromagnetic interactions. I was wondering if there was a more general gauge symmetry that involved more complicated choices of U.
 

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