Is Dummit & Foote's Abstract Algebra the Ultimate Guide for Mathematicians?

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of various textbooks on Abstract Algebra for mathematicians, particularly focusing on Dummitt & Foote's book. Participants explore options for rigorous texts that cover both undergraduate and graduate topics, while expressing preferences and reservations about specific titles.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Herstein's "Topics in Algebra" is a classic and a good option for rigorous study.
  • Others mention that Sah's book is difficult but elegant, indicating a preference for challenging material.
  • One participant proposes that exploring Algebraic Geometry or Algebraic Topology could provide a deeper understanding of abstract algebra concepts.
  • Several classic texts are recommended, including Van der Waerden, Birkhoff-McLane, and Herstein, with varying opinions on their approaches and effectiveness.
  • Dummitt & Foote is noted for its popularity and comprehensive coverage, though one participant admits to not being personally familiar with it.
  • Participants express skepticism about Dover publications, questioning their modernity and reliability.
  • Artin's work is mentioned as another potential resource, though no details are provided.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on which textbook is the best choice, as multiple competing views and preferences for different texts remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the quality and reliability of certain texts, particularly Dover publications, and the appropriateness of various books for different levels of study.

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A good book on Abstract Algebra that covers major undergraduate and graduate topics?
Something rigorous professional and for mathematicians.

Not Hungerford please, or any n x $100 book.
 
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dijkarte said:
A good book on Abstract Algebra that covers major undergraduate and graduate topics?
Something rigorous professional and for mathematicians.

Not Hungerford please, or any n x $100 book.

What do you want to learn and how abstract would you like the book to be?

Herstien's Topics in Algebra is a classic. You can get it used for $50.

Sah's Book is incredibly hard - but incredibly elegant.

But why not read a beginning book on Algebraic Geometry. You will have to learn a ton of algebra for this and a lot of abstract algebra comes form it.

You could also get a book on Algebraic Topology and learn algebra as you need it.
 
dijkarte said:
A good book on Abstract Algebra that covers major undergraduate and graduate topics?
Something rigorous professional and for mathematicians.

Not Hungerford please, or any n x $100 book.

Here are the ones I know about. Ideally one should read them all. Or maybe just read Disquisitiones Arithmeticae and try to figure out how Gauss did all that at age 21.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disquisitiones_Arithmeticae

The classic algebra books.

* Van der Waerden
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387974245/?tag=pfamazon01-20

This was the first "modern" algebra book that presented the subject as it's taught today: set theoretical preliminaries, groups, rings, and fields. Still an excellent book.

* Birkhoff - McLane
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1568810687/?tag=pfamazon01-20

A classical approach. Starts with a lot of material about concrete symmetry groups (reflections of the square, etc.) so that you really get a feel for what groups are about. Excellent book, not often mentioned these days.

* Herstein.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471010901/?tag=pfamazon01-20

This is a desert island book. It's a real classic. It's more modern than Birkhoff-MacLane but still classical in that it doesn't talk about category theory. This is arguably THE best undergrad abstract algebra book out there.

* Dummitt & Foote
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471433349/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I'm not personally familiar with that one but it's pretty popular.

* Hungerford. Well you didn't want to hear about that. But if you're looking at grad-level texts, it's either Hungerford or ...

* Lang.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/038795385X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Some call it comprehensive. Others call it incomprehensible. "Terse" and "austere" don't begin to describe it. As a book to learn from, personally I didn't like it. But as a reference, it's really good. There's a lot of material in there.
 
Yup these are options. After searching I've come across Elements of Modern Algebra by Gilbert, still cheaper than Hungerford's. I'm not sure about Dover stuff it looks dated...
 
Don't forget Artin!
 
I'm now considering Dummitt & Foote based on the number of pages it has sounds comprehensive and covering a wider range of topics than others or maybe in more details...

Though Dover still tempting but not sure about quality of content, and I mean the material there is it reliable and advanced?
 

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