Is Education Merely Imposing Professors' Beliefs on Learners?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of education and whether it primarily involves imposing professors' beliefs and behaviors on learners. Participants explore the implications of this perspective, questioning the potential for new ideas and independent thinking within educational systems.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that education is fundamentally about imposing professors' beliefs and actions on learners, questioning the fragility of this system.
  • Another participant argues that while colleagues in graduate studies or postdoctoral positions influence each other, the original question posed is unclear.
  • A different viewpoint asserts that education involves imparting established beliefs and practices to help learners avoid ineffective methods, implying that new ideas may emerge at certain educational levels.
  • One participant counters the notion of education as mere imposition by emphasizing the importance of independent critical thinking among students, citing a personal experience of challenging a professor's statement.
  • Another participant defends education as a necessary institution that builds on previous knowledge, suggesting that it should not be viewed negatively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of education, with some agreeing that it involves the transmission of established beliefs, while others argue for the potential of independent thought and the evolution of ideas within educational contexts. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the influence of authority figures and the role of critical thinking, but there are no clear definitions or consensus on what constitutes effective education or the conditions under which new ideas may arise.

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At the base isn't education just imposing prof's beliefs and way of acting to learners ?

So it lasts only if learners copy, but everyone knows that the system is kidding and contradictory, so isn't education fragile ? That's why the profs control and eventually punish discrepancies between what was told or done and the supposed recopying by the learners.

Hence objectively there can be nothing new in this system ?
 
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Inevitably whoever you end up working with for a few years (if you're doing graduate study or employment as a postdoc) will rub off on you. How much depends on whether they are your superior, colleague or subordinate, your personalities and the compatibility of your views.

Apart from that I am not sure what you're asking in your post.
 
jk22 said:
At the base isn't education just imposing prof's beliefs and way of acting to learners ?
No. It's actually about imposing working beliefs and established way of acting to learners, so they can avoid the very ineffective way of finding them on their own.

jk22 said:
Hence objectively there can be nothing new in this system ?

At which level of the education system do you think some new can/should be found?
 
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jk22 said:
At the base isn't education just imposing prof's beliefs and way of acting to learners ?
Not if the students learn and practice independent critical thinking.

I once outraged a professor during an elective seminar covering development of major religions by contradicting his statement beginning "Scientists believe..." by stating that science does not require a learner to believe (in this context where belief implies faith) but to understand.
jk22 said:
Hence objectively there can be nothing new in this system ?
Lability, such as copying a professor or any authority figure, does not constitute a system. Dynamic systems by definition, change; accommodating the new.
 
jk22 said:
At the base isn't education just imposing prof's beliefs and way of acting to learners ?

Suppose she herself is well taught and understands much: why do you pose it as an indictment?

Education is what humans do so each generation doesn't have to start from scratch. It is the finest of institutions . See farther...shoulders of giants...
 

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