Is Entertron a Good Choice for PLC Automation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the suitability of Entertron PLCs for automation tasks, particularly for users with basic programming skills. Participants share their experiences and suggest alternatives, exploring various options for PLC automation, programming ease, and historical context of PLC use.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in Entertron PLCs for basic automation tasks and seeks feedback on their usability and programming ease.
  • Another participant suggests considering Keyence PLCs, highlighting their ease of use and affordability.
  • A different viewpoint recommends using PIC microcontrollers from Microchip, discussing the learning curve associated with programming in PicBasic or assembler, and emphasizing their low cost and availability.
  • A participant shares a historical account of programming a PLC for a warehouse crane system, detailing the complexities of the task and the advantages of using a PLC over older methods involving EPROMs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the best choice for PLC automation, with no consensus on the superiority of Entertron or alternative options like Keyence or PIC microcontrollers.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations depend on individual preferences for programming languages and the specific automation tasks they aim to accomplish. The discussion reflects varying levels of experience and comfort with different technologies.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in PLC automation, particularly those with limited programming experience, as well as those exploring different PLC options and historical perspectives on automation technology.

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I am looking into some automation of basic tasks, and think that a PLC is the best approach.

http://www.entertron.com/

This is a site that another forum recommended. Has anyone else used anything from these guys in the past? I have very very basic programming skills and need something that I can pick up rather quickely. I saw a unit in McMaster that seemed easy to use with a ladder style programming module, or a software suite that you interfaced with via RS-232.

Any help, war stories, trials and/or tribulations are welcome.

(I hope this was the right forum to post this in)
 
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Give a look at http://www.keyence.com/products/barcode/plc/plc.php". They make a line of easy to use inexpensive PLC.
 
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My recommendation would be to use a PIC from microchip. You can get a nice kits from www.rentron.com. If of course learning PicBasic isn't what you want to do, you can also learn assembler (painfull if you ask me) and program the chips like that. I have found that a PIC is easy to use once you've wrapped your head around the basic principle (get the book PIC Microcontroller Prroject book, ISBN 0-07-143704-5 for an easy to understand intro) and they are cheap and abundant. If you decide to go this way, I highly recommend you get the PicBasicPro compiler, not just the entry level version.
 
I programmed a simple PLC to control an unmanned storage and retrieval crane for warehouses. The PLC received a command from a computer to store or retrieve a load from a specific location and the PLC handled all the functions including speed of the crane based on how far from the location it was, parity checking of the location address, checking whether a bin that should be empty was in fact full and vice versa and stopping the crane if the load toppled over. It was even programmed to board a car that would take the crane to a different aisle.

This was around 1981. We also had an onboard computer that handled a few functions the PLC could not do such as checking for prohibited locations like ones where there was a fire sprinkler or a light fixture. To debug the code for the computer in those days, the EPROMs had to be sent back to the home office and through lengthy phone conversations with the field, the code was fixed, the PROMS were burned and sent back to the field. With the PLC, I could modify the circuit on the spot. Even though the PLC had by far the more complicated part of the operation, about 80% of my time was waiting for EPROM turnaround.
 

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