Is Exponents Multiplication or Repeated Multiplication?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of exponents, specifically whether they represent multiplication or repeated multiplication. Participants explore the definitions and implications of exponents, including the case of zero exponents and the limits associated with them.

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  • Debate/contested
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that "2 to the power of 4" means multiplying 2 by itself four times, leading to confusion about the count of multiplications involved.
  • Others clarify that the exponent indicates the number of factors of the base, suggesting that the exponent of 4 corresponds to four factors of 2.
  • Questions arise regarding the definition of zero exponents, with some participants seeking proof for why x^0 equals 1 only when x is not zero.
  • One participant mentions limits involving zero exponents and suggests that the limit of x^x as x approaches zero approaches 1, although this is contingent on the rates at which the variables approach zero.
  • There are repeated requests for participants to refrain from adding unrelated questions to the thread, indicating a desire to maintain focus on the original topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of exponents and the implications of zero exponents. There is no consensus on the questions raised about the nature of exponents and their limits.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the continuity of functions and the behavior of limits, which remain unresolved. The conversation also reflects varying interpretations of mathematical definitions and their implications.

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I'm reading Basic Math & Pre Algebra for Dummies and it says...

"As you can see, the notation 2 to the power of 4 means multiply 2 by itself 4 times."

and this is written there...2 to the power of 4 = 2 X 2 X 2 X 2 = 16


Isn't that multiplied 3 times? 2 X 2 = 4 that's once. then 4 X 2 = 8 that's twice. then 8 X 2 = 16 that's three times.
 
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We have some trouble with language and wording. The exponent indicates the count of a number as a factor in a term.

"Two to the power of Four", "2 to the power of 4", means 2*2*2*2 = 16.
COUNT the factors of 2. How many factors of 2 are used? The expression uses 4 factors of 2. The exponent is 4.
 
2^4 means 2 multiplied with itself 4 times.

2 is called the base

4 is called the power


but..x^0 = 1 implies that x ≠ 0 ..why?
proof?
 
özgürden said:
2^4 means 2 multiplied with itself 4 times.

2 is called the base

4 is called the power


but..x^0 = 1 implies that x ≠ 0 ..why?
proof?
PLEASE do not add your own question to someone else's thread! Start your own thread.

0x= 0 for any positive x. But x0= 1. That is, the limit as x approaches 0 of 0x is 0 while the limit, as x approaches 0 of x0 is 1. In order to have a continuous function we would want to define the value to be such a limit. Since those two limits both "represent" 00, but are different, 00 has no value.
 
HallsofIvy said:
PLEASE do not add your own question to someone else's thread! Start your own thread.

0x= 0 for any positive x. But x0= 1. That is, the limit as x approaches 0 of 0x is 0 while the limit, as x approaches 0 of x0 is 1. In order to have a continuous function we would want to define the value to be such a limit. Since those two limits both "represent" 00, but are different, 00 has no value.

i would agree that this should be in another thread, but I'm not going to start it.

Halls, because

\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} x^x = 1

i think most people agree that, if you were going to assign a value of 00 to anything, it would be 1. heck, (0.000000001)0.000000001 is a lot closer to 1 than it is to 0.
 
Hi Embison! :smile:
Embison said:
I'm reading Basic Math & Pre Algebra for Dummies and it says...

"As you can see, the notation 2 to the power of 4 means multiply 2 by itself 4 times."

and this is written there...2 to the power of 4 = 2 X 2 X 2 X 2 = 16


Isn't that multiplied 3 times? 2 X 2 = 4 that's once. then 4 X 2 = 8 that's twice. then 8 X 2 = 16 that's three times.

Yup … I agree with you! :biggrin:

But it's ok in that book …

:smile: 'cos dummies won't notice! :smile:
 
But this is only if the exponent and base is approaching zero at the same rate. In fact, \lim_{x \to 0} \lim_{y \to 0} x^{y} can take any value, depending on the "speed" the two variables are approaching zero with.
 
HallsofIvy said:
PLEASE do not add your own question to someone else's thread! Start your own thread.

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pardon..
 

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