Is <f,g> an Inner Product on C[a,b]?

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The discussion revolves around proving that a defined operation, =∫(a to b) f(x)g(x)dx, qualifies as an inner product on the space of continuous functions C[a,b]. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that this operation satisfies the properties outlined in the relevant theorem.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants suggest that the original poster is attempting to prove the inner product properties, including commutativity and linearity. Others express confusion about the notation and seek further elaboration on the definitions and properties that need to be verified.

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The conversation indicates that participants are exploring the requirements for the operation to be classified as an inner product. Some guidance has been offered regarding the specific properties to prove, but there is a lack of consensus on how to begin the proof, with multiple interpretations of the notation and definitions being discussed.

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Participants note the potential confusion arising from the use of different notations for inner products and dot products, which may affect their understanding of the problem. There is also an acknowledgment of the need to clarify the steps involved in proving the properties of the inner product.

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Homework Statement


show that if we define the following operation:
let f=f(x) and g=g(x) be two functions in C[a,b] and define <f,g>=int(a to b) f(x)g(x)dx
show that the conditions of therom are satisified with this operation. Use h=h(x) to help with part b
this shows that this operation is an inner product
therom


Homework Equations


a. u dot v = v dot u
b. (u+v) dot w = u dot w + v dot w
c. (cu) dot v = c(u dot v) = u dot (cv)
d. u dot u >= 0, and u dot u = 0 if and only if u = 0


The Attempt at a Solution


I really have no idea where to begin here...
 
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I assume you are trying to prove that your structure is an inner product. For reference, <f,g> is just a generalized way of writing a dot product (as a dot product is just one specific inner product). So what you need to prove is:

a. <f,g> = <g,f>
b. <f+g,h> = <f,h> + <g,h>
c. <cf,g> = c<f,g> = <f,cg> where c is a scalar, not a function

and so on. Plug and chug, almost.
 
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Hi sorry. I'm still pretty confused. Is there anyway you could elaborate?
 
Shaunzio said:

Homework Statement


show that if we define the following operation:
let f=f(x) and g=g(x) be two functions in C[a,b] and define <f,g>=int(a to b) f(x)g(x)dx
show that the conditions of therom are satisified with this operation. Use h=h(x) to help with part b
this shows that this operation is an inner product
therom
It's rather confusing for us to use "<f, g>" above and "u dot v" below!


Homework Equations


a. u dot v = v dot u
So you want to prove that
&lt;f, g&gt;= \int_a^b f(x)g(x)dx= \int_a^b g(x)f(x)dx= &lt;g, f&gt;

b. (u+v) dot w = u dot w + v dot w
So you want to prove that
&lt;f+ g, h&gt;= \int_a^b (f(x)+ g(x))h(x) dx= \int_a^b f(x)h(x) dx+ \int_a^b g(x)h(x) dx= &lt;f, h&gt;+ &lt;g, h&gt;

c. (cu) dot v = c(u dot v) = u dot (cv)
So you want to prove that
&lt;cf, g&gt;= \int_a^b (cf(x))g(x)dx= c\int_a^b f(x)g(x)dx= \int_a^b f(x)(cg(x))dx

d. u dot u >= 0, and u dot u = 0 if and only if u = 0
So you want to prove that
&lt;f, f&gt;= \int_a^b f^2(x)dx\ge 0
and
&lt;f, f&gt;= \int_a^b f^2(x)dx= 0
if and only if f(x)= 0 for all x between a and b.


The Attempt at a Solution


I really have no idea where to begin here...
Did you not consider writing out what you want to prove in terms of the given definition?
 

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