Is f(x,y) continuous at (0,0)?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the continuity of the function f: \mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R} defined as f(x,y) = (xy^2 ln(x^2 + y^2))/(x^2 + y^2) for (x,y) ≠ (0,0) and f(0,0) = 0 at the point (0,0). Participants are tasked with showing that f is continuous at this point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants discuss the challenges of using polar coordinates and the squeeze theorem, while others question the effectiveness of these methods. There is mention of delta-epsilon proofs and the difficulties associated with them.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different approaches to the problem, with some expressing initial confusion about polar coordinates. A few have indicated they have made progress in understanding the limit behavior of the function as it approaches (0,0), though no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of uncertainty regarding the application of polar coordinates and the interpretation of limits involving logarithmic functions as they approach zero.

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Homework Statement


We define the function [itex]f: \mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R}[/itex] as

[itex] \begin{equation}<br /> f(x,y) = \frac{xy^2 ln(x^2 + y^2)}{x^2 + y^2}<br /> \end{equation}[/itex] if [itex](x,y) \neq (0,0)[/itex]. Also note that [itex]f(0,0) = 0[/itex].

Show that [itex]f[/itex] is continuous at [itex](0,0)[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


Polar coords don't work and I don't see a good way to utilize the squeeze theorem which leaves me with delta epsilon. I'm terrible with delta epsilon proofs so I'm wondering if someone can get me started and I'll take it from there.

Thanks.
 
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Jonmundsson said:

Homework Statement


We define the function [itex]f: \mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R}[/itex] as

[itex] \begin{equation}<br /> f(x,y) = \frac{xy^2 ln(x^2 + y^2)}{x^2 + y^2}<br /> \end{equation}[/itex] if [itex](x,y) \neq (0,0)[/itex]. Also note that [itex]f(0,0) = 0[/itex].

Show that [itex]f[/itex] is continuous at [itex](0,0)[/itex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Polar coords don't work and I don't see a good way to utilize the squeeze theorem which leaves me with delta epsilon. I'm terrible with delta epsilon proofs so I'm wondering if someone can get me started and I'll take it from there.

Thanks.

What is the problem with polar coord's?
 
I get [itex]ln(r^2)[/itex] which is undefined as [itex]r \to 0[/itex]
 
Jonmundsson said:

Homework Statement


We define the function [itex]f: \mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R}[/itex] as

[itex] \begin{equation}<br /> f(x,y) = \frac{xy^2 ln(x^2 + y^2)}{x^2 + y^2}<br /> \end{equation}[/itex] if [itex](x,y) \neq (0,0)[/itex]. Also note that [itex]f(0,0) = 0[/itex].

Show that [itex]f[/itex] is continuous at [itex](0,0)[/itex]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Polar coords don't work and I don't see a good way to utilize the squeeze theorem which leaves me with delta epsilon. I'm terrible with delta epsilon proofs so I'm wondering if someone can get me started and I'll take it from there.

Thanks.

I think polar coordinates will work. Why do you think they don't?
 
I figured it out. I feel pretty dumb now.

It's just like [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} x sin(1/x) = 0[/itex] but [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} sin(1/x)[/itex] is undefined.

Thanks for the help.
 
Jonmundsson said:
I figured it out. I feel pretty dumb now.

It's just like [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} x sin(1/x) = 0[/itex] but [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} sin(1/x)[/itex] is undefined.

Thanks for the help.
Yes.

I assume you got
r ln(r2) sin2(θ) cos(θ) .​
Then took the limit of that as r → 0 .
 
Jonmundsson said:
I figured it out. I feel pretty dumb now.

It's just like [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} x sin(1/x) = 0[/itex] but [itex]\displaystyle \lim _{x \to 0} sin(1/x)[/itex] is undefined.

Thanks for the help.

I think it's more like a l'Hopital's rule proof. But glad you got it.
 

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