Is Higgs boson exactly energy ?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the Higgs boson, specifically whether it can be considered a form of energy. Participants explore concepts related to mass, momentum, and the relationship between particles and energy in the context of theoretical physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the classification of the Higgs boson as a form of energy, suggesting that energy is a property of particles rather than a defining characteristic.
  • Another participant explains that all fundamental particles, including the Higgs boson, possess 4-momentum, which includes rest mass and spatial linear momentum.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity of language used in the discussion, particularly regarding the phrasing of questions about energy and momentum.
  • There is a challenge to the notion that mass can be equated with energy, with a participant arguing that energy is a numerical value that describes an object's behavior rather than a physical substance.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between the Higgs boson and photons, noting that the decay of the Higgs boson into photons implies it has momentum.
  • Questions are posed about calculating the energy and momentum of other particles, such as the Z boson, indicating a desire for deeper exploration of these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the Higgs boson can be considered energy, with some arguing against this idea while others explore the implications of mass-energy equivalence. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect confusion or ambiguity in language, which may affect the clarity of the discussion. The relationship between mass, energy, and momentum is complex and not fully resolved in the conversation.

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Is Higgs boson a form of energy ?

Hello all .
We know Higgs boson or Higgs particle is a theoretical elementary particle and in the Standard Model, the Higgs particle is a boson with no spin, electric charge, or color charge and it just has mass .
So what's the problem when we say they are exactly energy or a form of energy ?

And we know Higgs boson can decay to two photons and photons have momentum so is that mean Higss boson has momentum ? ( refer to Conservation of momentum )
 
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A fundamental particle in specially relativistic QFT is the reunion of its attributes, one of which being the 4-momentum covector with the normal components: rest mass + spatial linear momentum. The Higgs makes no exception, once its possible interactions with the rest of the fundamental particles (graphically illustrated by Feynman diagrams) are calculated.
 


big_bounce said:
the Higgs particle is a boson with no spin, electric charge, or color charge and it just has mass .
So what's the problem when we say they are exactly energy or a form of energy ?

This is a bit like saying, "A zeppelin is a type of vehicle with no wheels, no trunk, and no mirrors, so can we say that a zeppelin is exactly gas mileage?"

That is, it doesn't make much sense. Energy is a property of individual particles, just as gas mileage is a property of individual vehicles. It makes about as much sense to say that a particle "is energy" as it makes to say that a vehicle "is gas mileage."

big_bounce said:
And we know Higgs boson can decay to two photons and photons have momentum so is that mean Higss boson has momentum ?

Any particle has a momentum. The momentum of a specific particle is related to its energy and its rest mass by the special relativistic formula ##p = \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{E^2 - (mc^2)^2}##.
 
The_Duck said:
Any particle has a momentum. The momentum of a specific particle is related to its energy and its rest mass by the special relativistic formula ##p = \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{E^2 - (mc^2)^2}##.

Anyone can answer .E stand on what ?
How can calculate this energy ?
Think about Z boson : how can we calculate momentum of Z boson in atom ?
 
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"E stand on what" is not English. If you are using a machine translator, you might want to try a different one.

"How can calculate this energy ?" is not English either, and I would have said that I could figure out what you meant, except that you have the equation right there.

"Think about Z boson : how can we calculate momentum of Z boson in atom ? " Please stick to the topic.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
"E stand on what" is not English. If you are using a machine translator, you might want to try a different one.

"How can calculate this energy ?" is not English either, and I would have said that I could figure out what you meant, except that you have the equation right there.

"Think about Z boson : how can we calculate momentum of Z boson in atom ? " Please stick to the topic.

It's obvious by his previous posts that this one has typos. Also, the equation is right there assuming that you simply substitute E with Z. However, I don't think that this is what he had in mind and I believe you know this.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
"E stand on what" is not English. If you are using a machine translator, you might want to try a different one.

"How can calculate this energy ?" is not English either, and I would have said that I could figure out what you meant, except that you have the equation right there.

"Think about Z boson : how can we calculate momentum of Z boson in atom ? " Please stick to the topic.

I'm sure the OP appreciates the English lesson, but I assume he was here out of interest in physics. Maybe YOU could stick to the topic.
 
If you understand what "E stand on what" means, perhaps you could answer him.
 
I've never liked all this "mass = energy" talk. It comes from E= mc^2, but how come we never talk about "frequency = energy" in the relation E = hf for a wave? If something's got mass it has some stored energy associated with it, but it's not the same thing. Energy is just a number that dictates an object's capacity to behave a certain way, it isn't "stuff", it's just a number that has to stay the same before and after you've done all your calculations.
 

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