Difference between Photons and the Higgs Boson?

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The discussion centers around the differences between photons and the Higgs boson, exploring their properties, interactions, and roles within quantum physics. Participants examine theoretical distinctions and implications of these particles in various contexts.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that both photons and the Higgs boson do not interact with the Higgs field, but they question the implications of this similarity.
  • One participant emphasizes that while the Higgs boson decays into photons, this does not imply that the Higgs contains photons; rather, it decays into various particles, including photons.
  • Another participant highlights the differences in properties: photons are massless, spin-1 particles, while the Higgs boson has a mass of approximately 125 GeV/c², is a spin-0 particle, and has positive parity.
  • Some argue that the Higgs boson does not couple directly to photons but rather through an effective coupling, suggesting a more complex relationship.
  • Participants discuss the conceptual analogy between photons as quanta of the electromagnetic field and the Higgs boson as the analog for the Higgs field, noting the differences in their respective properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the similarities and differences between photons and the Higgs boson, with no consensus reached on the nature of their relationship or properties.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on specific definitions of interactions and properties, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of decay processes and effective coupling mechanisms.

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I'm new to quantum physics, and this might be a stupid question. What is the difference between Photons and the Higgs Boson? I know that neither of them interact with the Higgs field. And that when CERN found the Higgs Boson, it decayed into other particles INCLUDING photons. So what's the difference?
 
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Quite a lot of processes including simple things such as an incandescent light bulb, emit photons.
It doesn't follow from that, that therefore the decay of Higgs, or an atomic nucleus, or any other object which emits photons must itself be a photon in some form.
 
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QuantumKangaroo said:
I'm new to quantum physics, and this might be a stupid question. What is the difference between Photons and the Higgs Boson? I know that neither of them interact with the Higgs field. And that when CERN found the Higgs Boson, it decayed into other particles INCLUDING photons. So what's the difference?

It also decays into practically everything else that's energetically allowed - bottom-antibottom pairs, charm-anti-charm pairs, W bosons, Z bosons. In fact, photon decay is a relatively rare process, but it's a nice clean signature. When particles decay into other particles, that doesn't mean that they "contain" them in any sense.

As for photons vs Higgses? Well, photons are the carriers of the EM force, Higgses aren't. Photons are have 0 rest mass, spin 1, and negative parity, and the Higgs has a mass of ~125 GeV/c^2, spin 0 and positive parity.

Just about the only thing they have in common is being chargeless bosons, but even then, the Photon is a vector boson, whist the Higgs is the scalar boson.
 
There is no similarity...

The higgs boson does not couple to photons directly but indirectly, via an effective coupling.
 
Photons are the quanta of electromagnetic field. So when you turn on electric or magnetic field it's basically filled up with photons. The Higgs particle is the analog of the same thing with Higgs field. There are also the differences In properties of the particles like Higgs are spin zero objects whereas photons are spin one ... The most spectacular difference is Higgs is massive and photon is massless which gives photons an extra symmetry (namely gauge invariance)..
 

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