Is 'I' Becoming More Common in Modern Speech?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived increase in the use of the first-person pronoun 'I' in modern speech, exploring its implications on self-perception, societal behavior, and communication patterns. Participants examine whether this trend reflects a growing selfishness or simply a shift in conversational norms, with references to historical context and anecdotal observations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants observe that 'I' is used more frequently in contemporary speech, including by lecturers, suggesting a cultural shift.
  • One participant notes that 'I' is often used in songs, which may influence everyday language.
  • There is a suggestion that increased defensiveness and awareness of multiple perspectives may lead to more frequent use of 'I' to indicate personal views.
  • Another participant recalls that 'I' has historically been one of the most commonly used words in spoken English.
  • Some argue that a tendency to talk about oneself may reflect a desire for attention rather than selfishness.
  • Several participants express the view that modern behaviors, such as materialism and entitlement, may correlate with increased use of 'I', though this is debated.
  • Discussions about gender differences in word usage arise, with claims about women speaking significantly more than men, though these claims are challenged with data suggesting minimal differences.
  • Humorous anecdotes about communication in relationships are shared, illustrating perceptions of male and female speech patterns.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the increased use of 'I' is indicative of selfishness or simply a reflection of changing communication styles. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of this trend.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about word frequency and gender differences in speech are based on studies, but limitations such as sample demographics and context are noted, suggesting that results may not be universally applicable.

  • #31
"Stuff" is less expensive than it used to be. Add to that, credit is far easier to obtain than it used to be, even 20 years ago. So people can indulge in an overabundance of consuming and owning more "stuff" than their parents could, who, by comparison, had to save money in order purchase belongings. Add to that a society that appears to value material goods as a measure of a person's worth, and I think you have a formula for people believing they're more important than they are.
 
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  • #32
I bet if you (you, meaning me, you, anyone read this) would, or could, avoid using "I, Me, and my" for a whole day in your normal environment-----NO ONE would notice----the reason being that everyone else that you'd be talking to would be so interested in what they themselves would be saying, they wouldn't 'catch' that someone around them is 'not' using the "I, Me, my, mine"
 
  • #33
And we should all speak in E-Prime while we're at it. ;-)
Certain turns of phrase used to avoid the no no words would likely give someone the impression that you are speaking differently though perhaps most would not be able to put their finger on the difference.
 
  • #34
rewebster said:
I bet if you (you, meaning me, you, anyone read this) would, or could, avoid using "I, Me, and my" for a whole day in your normal environment-----NO ONE would notice----the reason being that everyone else that you'd be talking to would be so interested in what they themselves would be saying, they wouldn't 'catch' that someone around them is 'not' using the "I, Me, my, mine"

the thing is people seem to notice it a lot each time the other person uses 'I' and it's usually of an unpleasant nature.
 
  • #35
_Mayday_ said:
Saying I a lot doesn't mean a person is selfish, maybe just a bit self-centred! :smile:

what's the difference?
 
  • #36
TheStatutoryApe said:
And we should all speak in E-Prime while we're at it. ;-)
Certain turns of phrase used to avoid the no no words would likely give someone the impression that you are speaking differently though perhaps most would not be able to put their finger on the difference.

Sure. We could substitute 'we' for 'I' or talk about ourselves in the third person. Both would be equally annoying after a while.
 
  • #37
BobG said:
Sure. We could substitute 'we' for 'I' or talk about ourselves in the third person. Both would be equally annoying after a while.

It's better to not talk about the self at all in my opinion.
 
  • #38
rewebster said:
I bet if you (you, meaning me, you, anyone read this) would, or could, avoid using "I, Me, and my" for a whole day in your normal environment-----NO ONE would notice----the reason being that everyone else that you'd be talking to would be so interested in what they themselves would be saying, they wouldn't 'catch' that someone around them is 'not' using the "I, Me, my, mine"

Moonbear is pretty sure that if she began talking about herself in the third person, other people would notice and consider her quite insane. Although, she's not sure if that would actually be a change in people's opinion of her, or just another reason to confirm the opinion they already hold. :biggrin:
 
  • #39
tgt said:
It's better to not talk about the self at all in my opinion.
Mine too.
 
  • #40
Moonbear said:
Moonbear is pretty sure that if she began talking about herself in the third person, other people would notice and consider her quite insane. Although, she's not sure if that would actually be a change in people's opinion of her, or just another reason to confirm the opinion they already hold. :biggrin:

I guess Moonbear's cat took over her account.
 
  • #41
Moonbear said:
Moonbear is pretty sure that if she began talking about herself in the third person, other people would notice and consider her quite insane. Although, she's not sure if that would actually be a change in people's opinion of her, or just another reason to confirm the opinion they already hold. :biggrin:

You sound like Miss Manners, which isn't all bad. I love her column:

Dear Miss Manners,
I have a friend whose sister was recently sentenced to a life sentence for murdering someone. I live a thousand miles away, and don't see my friend very often, but he did tell me of the upcoming trial when I last saw him. He told me that his sister had drifted away from the family years ago and that they weren't close.

I just heard the news about the life sentence, and my instinct is not to contact him about it. I'm certain he doesn't care to talk about it. Part of me wonders, however, if I should offer condolences or make a call. Your advice?

Gentle Reader,
Whether or not your friend wants to talk about this, you may be sure that he is aware that other people are doing so. A murder is not something that escapes notice.

Many of them will be pestering the family with questions and opinions about the matter, and Miss Manners appreciates your delicacy in refraining from such hurtful indulgence of curiosity. But you also do not want to appear to be one of those who will cause hurt by distancing themselves, as if your friend were now tainted by the association.

A letter saying merely that you are thinking of him and wishing him well would be kind. Then you won't need to clap your hand over your mouth when you next see him and innocently ask, "How's the family?"
 
  • #42
jimmysnyder said:
Mine too.
:biggrin:

PS: I couldn't disagree more.
 
  • #43
I'm not quite sure when the "Me" generation was, but 'their' children may be in their teens and twenties now-----or, what the children of the 'me' generation are called (tweeners, 'X', whatever)---but, what doesn't help, IMO, is when I happened to flip to different sit-coms, a lot of them (the characters, that is) present themselves quite selfishly (sons and daughters of the 'me' generation).

Of course, this is what 'makes' most of those shows 'interesting' (the dilemmas of what happens those people think only of themselves), but it has to rub off on those watching to 'some' degree.
 
  • #44
I am the ninth letter of the alphabet. (from the May 2008 issue of Reader's Digest)
 
  • #45
rewebster said:
I'm not quite sure when the "Me" generation was, but 'their' children may be in their teens and twenties now-----or, what the children of the 'me' generation are called (tweeners, 'X', whatever)---but, what doesn't help, IMO, is when I happened to flip to different sit-coms, a lot of them (the characters, that is) present themselves quite selfishly (sons and daughters of the 'me' generation).

Of course, this is what 'makes' most of those shows 'interesting' (the dilemmas of what happens those people think only of themselves), but it has to rub off on those watching to 'some' degree.

That is the thing. The generations after the "Me" generation. It can only get more selfish. I really don't like to imagine the generation after mine.
 
  • #46
Question: Who am I?

I was born before those I am considering.
I think they have it all.
I respected my elders while they do not.
They are clearly more selfish while I was not.
I believe this wave of immigrants does not respect the culture.
I probably arrived during an earlier immigration wave and bothered the existing population.
I think things were better back then.
I am unaware of my feelings blinding me in regard to these considerations.

Answer: I am the generation before another.
 

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