Is Integration by Parts the Key to Solving Complex Equations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of integration by parts to solve complex integrals, specifically focusing on the integral of the form ∫e^(3x) * 3 * x^2 * y dx. Participants explore the steps involved in applying integration by parts and consider the implications of repeated integration of the exponential function.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the integration by parts process, setting u = 3 * x^2 and dv = e^(3x) dx, and provides a series of transformations and substitutions.
  • Another participant questions how to proceed further, noting that the term exp(3*x) appears repeatedly in the integration process.
  • A different participant suggests that the integral ∫e^(3x) dx is straightforward and can be solved using a simple substitution.
  • Another contribution proposes a general approach for integrals of the form ∫x^n f(x) dx, indicating that repeated application of integration by parts will eventually simplify the integral to a manageable form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to continue solving the integral. There are multiple perspectives on how to handle the repeated integration of the exponential function, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the next steps in the integration process, particularly in relation to the repeated appearance of the exponential term and the implications for the integration by parts method.

Ein Krieger
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Hey guys,

Need you push to proceed further with integration by parts:

∫e3x*3*x2*ydx=y∫e3x*3*x2dx

setting u=3*x2-------du=6*x dx
dv= e3*xdx--- v= 1/3* e3*x

∫ e3*x*3*x2*ydx=y*(3*x2* 1/3* e3*x-∫6*x*1/3* e3*xdx)
=y*(3*x2* 1/3* e3*x-6/3*∫x*e3*xdx)
Solving further about x*e3*x
u=x---du=dx
dv=e3*xdx---v=1/3*e3*x
∫ e3*x*3*x2*ydx=y*(3*x2* 1/3* e3*x-6/3*(x*1/3*e3*x-∫1/3e3*x)
 
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How can we go further with solution as exp(3*x) repeats all the time?
 


You've done all the hard work. ∫e3xdx is easy, using a simple substitution.
 


If you have [itex]\int x^n f(x)dx[/itex], where "f" is easy to integrate any number of times (and the "nth" integral of [itex]e^{3x}[/itex] is [itex](1/3^n)e^{3x}[/itex]), just continue taking [itex]u= x^n[/itex], [itex]dv= f(x)dx[/itex]. Everytime du will have x to a lower power until, eventually, it is just [itex]x^0= 1[/itex].
 

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