Is it OK to fly if rail is too expensive?

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Traveling from London to Madrid for a conference presents a dilemma due to high rail costs (~£250) compared to cheaper flights (~£80-£90). The traveler expresses a strong preference against flying due to climate concerns and a belief that rail travel should be more accessible. Participants in the discussion suggest that flying, despite its drawbacks, may be the most practical option given the cost and time efficiency. There are debates about the environmental impact of both modes of transport, with some arguing that ordinary trains are cleaner than planes. Ultimately, the traveler is left contemplating whether to fly or forgo the trip altogether.
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"Have you evidence that this is the case? This is v.relavent to OP. Bear in mind I was referring to short haul."

Is anyone reading my posts? There is a basica calculation with neu's numbers and the number of flights from Friends of the Earth. If you cannot accept these numbers then you are being truly ignorant to the facts. Before 'Global Warming' even existed (before the media and government got on it), hardly anyone cared about emissions and CO2, but now everyone has jumped on the band wagon. The media has hyped up global warming to the extreme and the government only care because they can tax it. Full stop.

There was a report on tv last night that the Earth is going to eventually collide with mars. Should we be panicking, trying to prevent the unpreventable? This is certainly a much greater risk with regards to life and a mass extinction than a slight raise in temperature is.

Why does nobody accept any evidence except that which supports their arguement?

Either base your judgement on facts, yes FACTS. Or make it on a personal basis and don't bother asking for others to approve of it because the fact is, your judgement is based on your own personal feelings. I have seen no evidence so far to suggest flying is worse than a train.
 
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jarednjames said:
Is anyone reading my posts?

Definitely, and I am really glad you shared the link to http://www.friendsofscience.org/" . Before, all I had were a few scattered, poorly articulated critiques of the 'climate change ' literature, but this website has put in the hard work that it takes to substantiate and extend all of the criticisms on the basis of peer-reviewed literature.

I do however, think that this thread is near the end of its on-topic life since the OP resolved their problem, and that unless anyone else asks me for further clarification I for one will probably let this thread sink away. On the otherhand, I look forward to someone else starting a new thread to argue about the role of carbon in climate change (I can't start it because most threads that I start are DOA).
 
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ExactlySolved said:
Definitely, and I am really glad you shared the link to http://www.friendsofscience.org/" . Before, all I had were a few scattered, poorly articulated critiques of the 'climate change ' literature, but this website has put in the hard work that it takes to substantiate and extend all of the criticisms on the basis of peer-reviewed literature.

I do however, think that this thread is near the end of its on-topic life since the OP resolved their problem, and that unless anyone else asks me for further clarification I for one will probably let this thread sink away. On the otherhand, I look forward to someone else starting a new thread to argue about the role of carbon in climate change (I can't start it because most threads that I start are DOA).

Well, says it all doesn't it, I ask if anyone's reading my posts, one person responds with definitely and thanks me for a link I didn't even post!
What is the ******* point.

ExactlySolved, I would love to discuss carbon in climate change in a thread, however given this result I feel any input from myself based on hard numbers and facts would be pointless. People just don't want to know the truth if it disagree with their point of view. Selective reading I suppose.
 
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