Is it possible for a freshman to find a summer REU program?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of freshmen and sophomores finding summer Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REU) programs in physics and mathematics. Participants share their experiences, concerns, and advice regarding eligibility, preparation, and specific programs that may be suitable for students with limited coursework.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their limited physics background (only two semesters) and questions whether they can be competitive for an REU program.
  • Another participant shares their successful experience as a freshman in an REU, suggesting that it is possible to participate even with limited coursework.
  • A different participant notes that having a strong math background may help in standing out for REU applications, indicating that freshmen are generally rare in these programs.
  • Some participants suggest that students should carefully read application requirements and consider applying even if they do not meet all criteria, as enthusiasm may be viewed positively.
  • One participant recommends the University of Pittsburgh's REU program, highlighting its focus on freshmen and sophomores and the potential for returning students.
  • Another participant mentions their own application to REUs in mathematics, detailing their coursework and expressing hope for acceptance.
  • One participant describes their experience at BYU's REU, noting the types of topics covered and the requirement to write a paper for stipend release.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact qualifications needed for REU programs, with some suggesting it is possible for freshmen to apply while others indicate that a stronger background may be necessary. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for students with limited experience.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific coursework and experiences that may influence eligibility for REUs, but there is no agreement on a definitive standard for acceptance. The discussion reflects varying levels of preparedness among students.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for undergraduate students considering REU programs, particularly those in their freshman or sophomore years, as well as those interested in understanding the application landscape and experiences of peers.

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I'm not actually a freshman. I'm a sophomore. But I didn't start doing physics until this year and fell in love with it and decided to declare it as my major. But I'm wondering is if it would be possible for me to find a summer REU program with only 2 semesters of physics? By this summer I'll only have had an intro course in mechanics and relativity and an intro E&M course. With that background is there any way that I could get accepted to an REU program? Even if I do get accepted to a program I feel like I'll be kind of intimidated by it. What kind of research could I really do with only a year of physics? Would it even be worth my time to try and do one this summer or should I just wait until I've had another year of physics? Does anybody know of any specific programs that would be open to taking people like me?
 
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Count me as being very interested in this as well. What level do you need to be at to get a decent REU?
 
Yes, I was a freshman doing Aerospace Engineering and did my REU at the McDonald Observatory during the summer between my first and second years. It's located like in the middle of nowhere, Texas (Fort Davis).

Next summer I was in Socal for Aerospace Corp. Most people would think Socal would be>>> that place, but no. Both were amazing in their own ways.
 
I did a math REU last summer as a freshman, but I had already taken the first semester of undergrad analysis and two semesters of linear algebra (first semester with matrices second semester abstract) plus about 5-6 other "past Calculus" math classes. With only the freshman physics classes, it will be hard to make yourself stand out enough to get in. Freshman overall are pretty rare finds in REUs.
 
You were a freshman yet had taken nearly enough Math classes that would be required for a major in Math, huh?
 
There are plenty of sophomores around the country already in graduate classes.
 
I'd suggest just reading the application descriptions carefully. If they specify a certain year or coursework background to be eligible, then adhere to that. If they don't, then it can't hurt to try. Maybe there aren't many freshmen in them because not a lot of freshmen apply. They might be impressed with the initiative so early on. Or, maybe you won't get one this year, but when you apply again next year, they'll remember you were the eager freshman whose name they saw before and will consider your enthusiasm favorably.
 
I suggest looking into the University of Pittsburgh's REU Program. I am not sure if they got funding for this upcoming summer, but if they did you should apply.

They focus on freshman and sophomores, with the hope that they can get the students to come back for a second summer. I was in that program for two summers and enjoyed it very much. They have a lot of cool research projects and a very friendly department.
 
Currently i am a freshman too, and i am also applying for REU in Math for the upcoming summer in two places: Williams Colleges, and BYU. I hope i will manage to get in. HOwever, by that time i would have already taken the following courses:El. functions, Stat 1,Calc 1,2,3, Differential Equations,Linear Algebra, Abstract Algebra.
 
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The REU I did last summer was at BYU. Two of the topics only require basic geometry and some knowledge of vector fields. They changed the third topic from mathematical physics and symmetry of PDEs to minimal surfaces, which is probably for the best since I certainly wasn't prepared to have QFT thrown at me. One thing though, they withhold part of your stipend until you've written a paper that they think is worth submitting to a journal. It's December, and I'm still working on my paper. :/

Honestly, if you get in, area minimization is probably the group to be in. Dr. Lawlor is great and the method he created to solve these problems is really ingenious.

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