The discussion centers on the physical possibility of a person falling over a balcony railing while running. A person measuring 183cm and weighing 82kg has a center of gravity approximately at 105cm. Given that the balcony railing is 108cm high, it is established that the individual could indeed fall over the railing due to the dynamics of motion, where the center of mass can shift significantly during running. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding biomechanics and suggests that experimental techniques are more reliable than simulations for demonstrating this phenomenon.
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Of course. Silly question, IMO.jimmypantspants said:
You mean "fell over the railing"? Yes, sounds possible. A running human is not a rigid sliding block, and the center of mass moves more than 3cm vertically during running.jimmypantspants said:
The upper part of the body would rotate around the railing, moving his CoM towards the wrong side and bringing his feet off the floor in a somersault.jimmypantspants said:
Thanks for the reply! Is there any proof I could use in an official debate? A law or theory ...?A.T. said:
In a court of law you would need some recognized expert on forensic bio-mechanics. But in order to demonstrate that it is possible you just could reproduce the situation (not on the balcony).jimmypantspants said:
Ok thank you! Is there any way I could do so without physically recreating it? A physics simulation? A bit of a stretch hahaha but I don't know what else.A.T. said:
If the question is just: "Is it possible?", then an experiment is much simpler, quicker, more reliable and requires much less expertise than a computer simulation.jimmypantspants said:
Well approximately that, because i saw that the center of mass of a male is 58% up his bodyCWatters said:
It's best to use experimental techniques to answer questions like that...jimmypantspants said:
You have the simple part: classical mechanics. And the complicated part: Complex human anatomy, with muscle contractions triggered in a way that is unpredictable in such a extreme situation. This basically makes any type of modeling of such an event pure guess work.jimmypantspants said:
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