Is it possible to use the center of gravity to balance a bird toy?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of using the center of gravity to balance a toy bird, contrasting it with the center of mass. Participants explore the implications of these concepts in a practical context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question the difference between center of gravity and center of mass, with some suggesting that it may not matter in this scenario. Others express curiosity about the conditions under which the center of gravity changes.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between center of gravity and center of mass. Some participants have offered insights, while others seek further clarification on the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of specific scenarios, such as near black holes and the behavior of a shuttlecock, which may influence the discussion but remain unresolved in terms of their implications for balancing the toy bird.

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Homework Statement
Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?
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Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?
Here is the picture where person balancing a toy bird with using center of mass.

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I am bored with center of mass. I want to try same experiment with center of gravity. Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
Problem Statement: Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?
Relevant Equations: Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?

Here is the picture where person balancing a toy bird with using center of mass.

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I am bored with center of mass. I want to try same experiment with center of gravity. Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy ?
What is the difference between centre of gravity and centre of mass? There is one, although it would make no difference in this context.
 
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haruspex said:
There is one, although it would make no difference in this context.

Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy or not?
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
I am bored with center of mass
That is a serious affection :smile: !

A remedy might be to spend a bit more time on R & R , socialize and such.

In extreme cases of brilliance, stepping up from center of mass to e.g. tensor of moment of inertia can be diverting

:wink:
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
Is it possible to use center of gravity to balance bird toy or not?
As haru says: ain't no difference, so a definite 'Yes'
 
BvU said:
As haru says: ain't no difference, so a definite 'Yes'
I think center of gravity changes but not center of mass. I think we can balance things by center of gravity not with center of mass.
 
Benjamin_harsh said:
center of gravity changes
Under what circumstances?
 
haruspex said:
Under what circumstances?
Near black holes etc. Where we balance things with center of gravity and also where center of mass is completely useless. Shuttlecock flips with center of gravity not with center of mass.
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
Shuttlecock flips with center of gravity not with center of mass.
No.

Have you ever played badminton on the moon?
 
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jbriggs444 said:
Have you ever played badminton on the moon?
No. Please explain why did you ask me such question?
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
No. Please explain why did you ask me such question?
To suggest that gravity is not the only factor affecting a shuttlecock.
 
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Benjamin_harsh said:
Shuttlecock flips with center of gravity not with center of mass.
I don't understand what you are saying here. Please explain in detail. In particular, please explain what you think the difference is between the two centres.
 

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