Center of Mass Balancing Question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the concept of balance on a seesaw, specifically focusing on the center of mass and torque. The scenario presents two cats, orange and blue, that are initially balanced, but the orange cat eats a bird, altering the balance. Participants are exploring how to restore balance based on the given options.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the implications of the orange cat eating a bird on the balance of the seesaw. There is confusion about the correct response options and the reasoning behind them. Some participants suggest that the orange cat should move closer to the fulcrum, while others are considering the effects of the blue cat's position and weight.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in reasoning about torque and balance. Some have provided insights into the relationship between weight and distance from the fulcrum, while others are still grappling with the implications of the changes in weight and position.

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There is a mention of a picture referenced in the problem, which may provide additional context. Participants are also reflecting on their classroom learning and how it applies to this specific scenario.

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The question is:
The orange and blue cat are currently balanced on the see saw. The orange cat then eats a bird, which of the following could make the see saw balanced again?
- I attached the picture that the question is referencing.

And the possible answers are:
  • A. Orange cat stays at same location and blue cat walks closer to the fulcrum.
  • B. Blue cat stays at same location and orange cat walks away from the fulcrum
  • C. Orange cat stays at same location and blue cat walks away from the fulcrum.

    I am confused because after everything I learned in class I assumed the answer would be that the orange cat should move closer to the fulcrum. But clearly that isn't it because its not an option. But then I was thinking that the blue cat was already heavier than the orange cat since in order for them to currently balance on the see saw the blue cat was closer which would mean that the orange cat should possibly more farther away? So I am still confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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What is an equivalent
lola96 said:
orange cat should move closer to the fulcrum.
rearrangement?
 
Bystander said:
What is an equivalent
rearrangement?

The blue cat moving away from the fulcrum?
 
Think, please.
 
lola96 said:
The question is:
The orange and blue cat are currently balanced on the see saw. The orange cat then eats a bird, which of the following could make the see saw balanced again?
- I attached the picture that the question is referencing.

And the possible answers are:
  • A. Orange cat stays at same location and blue cat walks closer to the fulcrum.
  • B. Blue cat stays at same location and orange cat walks away from the fulcrum
  • C. Orange cat stays at same location and blue cat walks away from the fulcrum.

    I am confused because after everything I learned in class I assumed the answer would be that the orange cat should move closer to the fulcrum. But clearly that isn't it because its not an option. But then I was thinking that the blue cat was already heavier than the orange cat since in order for them to currently balance on the see saw the blue cat was closer which would mean that the orange cat should possibly more farther away? So I am still confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If nobody moves, which way will the seesaw tip?
 
haruspex said:
If nobody moves, which way will the seesaw tip?
Will the see saw tip towards the orange cat?
 
lola96 said:
Will the see saw tip towards the orange cat?
Yes.

Now think about torque.
Torque is force times distance from the fulcrum. Here force is, of course, the weight of each cat. Balancing see-saw means torque of both cats should cancel.
 
lola96 said:
Will the see saw tip towards the orange cat?

Instead of asking us, you should tell us. Think about it: the orange cat now weighs more than before!
 

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