Is it theoretically possible to measure polariton mass?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical possibility of measuring the mass of polaritons, which are quasiparticles formed from the coupling of photons with excitations in a medium. Participants explore the nature of polaritons, the concept of effective mass, and the challenges in distinguishing the mass of polaritons from the mass of the particles that create them.

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  • One participant seeks to understand whether the mass of polaritons can be measured and how it can be separated from the mass of the particles that create them.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of quasiparticles and clarifies that polaritons are a type of quasiparticle, emphasizing the idea of effective mass.
  • A later reply explains that quasiparticles represent collective excitations and that their effective mass is related to the fluctuations they cause in a medium.
  • There is a question about whether the entities causing polaritons are always separate from the polaritons themselves or if they can be considered part of the polariton.

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Participants express uncertainty about the measurement of polariton mass and the relationship between polaritons and the particles that create them. There is no consensus on how to approach these questions, and multiple views are presented regarding the nature of quasiparticles and effective mass.

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Participants mention the concept of quasiparticles and effective mass but do not delve into the mathematical details or assumptions underlying these concepts. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the practical implications of measuring polariton mass.

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Take it slow, polaritons are a new concept for me. Anyways, I'm trying to get some intuition for excitation polaritons having mass. Is this a quantity that we could directly measure, at least in theory if not practically? How would we separate the mass of the polariton itself from the mass of the particles that are creating the polariton? Are the things causing polaritons always separate from the polaritons themselves, or are they sometimes a "part" of the polariton? I'm thinking here specifically of a situation like a photon interacting with some EM field, is the photon still a separate entity?

Sorry for the barrage. Most of the stuff I've dug up so far is written a little above my pay grade so I'm trying to get a better handle on it.
 
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Habeebe said:
Take it slow, polaritons are a new concept for me. Anyways, I'm trying to get some intuition for excitation polaritons having mass. Is this a quantity that we could directly measure, at least in theory if not practically? How would we separate the mass of the polariton itself from the mass of the particles that are creating the polariton? Are the things causing polaritons always separate from the polaritons themselves, or are they sometimes a "part" of the polariton? I'm thinking here specifically of a situation like a photon interacting with some EM field, is the photon still a separate entity?

Sorry for the barrage. Most of the stuff I've dug up so far is written a little above my pay grade so I'm trying to get a better handle on it.

From the way you are asking this ("... How would we separate the mass of the polariton itself from the mass of the particles that are creating the polariton... "), I need to make sure something is clarified first as the starting point. Are you familiar with the concept of "quasiparticles", as in the Fermi Liquid theory?

Zz.
 
Not at all. I mean I've heard cliff note's style version of what quasiparticles are, but that's it. I'll look into Fermi Liquid theory.
 
A polariton is a quasiparticle like ZapperZ said. A quasiparticle is a collective movement of a bunch of individual particles. Since a quasiparticle is a collective excitation, when we speak about quasiparticle mass we refer to effective mass. When a quasiparticle moves through a medium it causes fluctuations in the spacing of nearby lattice ions and surrounding particles; the size of the fluctuations in a medium a quasiparticle causes is related to its effective mass. If you imagine the quasiparticle as a single particle, and insert it into a lattice, the size of the fluctuations it causes would be due to its (effective) mass.
 

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