Is Magnetism Capable of Bending Space?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether magnetism is capable of bending space, exploring theoretical frameworks and interpretations related to this concept. Participants reference various theories and principles, including the equivalence principle and Kaluza's unified field theory, while examining the relationship between magnetism, gravity, and spacetime curvature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks answers or papers regarding whether magnetism can bend space, noting that most literature focuses on gravity's effects.
  • Another participant asserts that magnetism does not bend space, while gravity does.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that if magnetism were subject to the equivalence principle, it would curve spacetime, but it is not.
  • One participant claims that magnetism does bend space, albeit in very small amounts, due to the energy in the magnetic field contributing to the energy-momentum tensor, which relates to spacetime curvature.
  • Another participant proposes that magnetism could potentially be described through a tensor theory similar to gravity, discussing the implications for magnetic monopoles and their geodesic paths in a magnetic field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether magnetism can bend space, with some arguing it does so minimally and others asserting it does not. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the equivalence principle and the energy-momentum tensor, indicating that the relationship between magnetism and spacetime curvature may depend on specific theoretical frameworks and assumptions. The discussion highlights the complexity and nuances involved in relating magnetism to spacetime geometry.

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this is not a school project its trying to find some answer or paper on: if magnetism can or can not bend space.

the closest theory that I've found is:

Theodor Kaluza (1885-1954) attracted the attention of the physical community since 1921 with his unified field theory of gravitation and electromagnetism in five dimensions.

yet there still seems to miss the question I'm trying to find some answer for "does magnetism bend space?" most papers I come across barely skim magnetism and switch over to how gravity affects space.
 
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Magnetism doesn't be space, but gravity does.
 
This is due to he equivalence principle. If magnetism was subject to the equivalence principle then it would curve spacetime, however it is not.
 
Well, magnetism DOES bend space, but only in very very tiny amounts. After all, the energy contained in the magnetic field contributes to the energy-momentum tensor, which is proportional to the Ricci curvature tensor (that's Einstein's equation).
But the energy content in a magnetic field is usually so small (as compared to the energy equivalent, say, of a block of lead), that its gravitational coupling is unmeasureable.
 
I think the question was aimed at 'is there a way of describing magnetism through a tensor theory' in a similar fashion to gravity. While mass is made up of all the interaction energies in a body including the magnetic and thus appears in Einstein's field equation it is the collective property of mass which determines spacetime curvature.

If a similar argument was proposed for magnetismthen two magnetic monopoles would not follow the same geodesic in a magnetic field unless their mass and the strength of the pole is the same with the same sign.
 

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