Is Malus' Law a law, or does it derive from Maxwells equations?

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The discussion centers on whether Malus' Law is a fundamental law derived from Maxwell's equations or if it is an additional construct. Participants explore the implications of both classical and quantum perspectives on the law, particularly seeking a classical electromagnetic explanation without invoking quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if Malus' Law follows automatically from Maxwell's equations or is an additional construct, specifically seeking a classical explanation.
  • Another participant asserts that Malus' Law can be derived from Jones Calculus, which represents electromagnetic waves as vectors and optical components as matrices, indicating a connection to Maxwell's equations.
  • Some participants argue that Malus' Law is fundamentally a quantum law and inquire about its quantum derivation, expressing interest in classical derivations as well.
  • A later reply suggests that the quantum and classical derivations of Malus' Law are equivalent, referencing external materials for further exploration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of Malus' Law, with some supporting its derivation from classical electromagnetic theory and others emphasizing its quantum origins. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relationship between Malus' Law and Maxwell's equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity on whether a purely classical derivation exists, and there are references to specific mathematical frameworks (Jones Calculus) and quantum considerations that may influence interpretations.

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Well the question is in the title. Does Malus' Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malus's_law ) follow automatically from Maxwell's equations, or is it really an extra thing put in by hand? In particular I'm interested if there is a purely classical electromagnetic explanation (i.e. without having to go into the quantum mechanics of wither the light or the polarising medium at all...)
 
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Malus' law falls naturally out of Jones Calculus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_calculus

Jones Calculus basically involves representing an EM wave as a vector, and optical components as matrices, with the matrices defined such that it transforms the incoming EM wave vector in the correct way. For example, a half-wave plate will have a matrix that rotates the incoming vector by 90 degrees.

Jones Calculus falls naturally from the theory of EM-waves, which in turn drops out of Maxwell's equations.

Claude.
 
Malus law is a quantum law, in principle. Can we calculate it in a quantum way, so for photons? In the above link this not exist.
This was calculated by Brukner, but without imaginary numbers. I am interested in classical derivation?
quant-ph/0212084v1
 

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