Is mass conserved in terms of Special Realitivity

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of mass in the context of Special Relativity, specifically questioning whether mass is a conserved quantity when considering the relationship between mass and energy as described by the equation E=mc².

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  • Participants explore the relationship between mass and energy, questioning whether mass can be considered conserved in relativistic scenarios. Some participants attempt to reconcile the conservation of energy with the transformation of mass into energy, while others challenge the notion of mass conservation itself.

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The discussion is active, with participants presenting differing views on the conservation of mass versus mass-energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between rest mass and relativistic mass, but no consensus has been reached on the original question of mass conservation.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of mass definitions in physics, particularly the distinction between invariant mass and relativistic mass, and how these concepts relate to energy conservation principles.

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Homework Statement


Is mass a conserved quantity under Special Realitivity?


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E=mc^2


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Total energy is always conserved in an isolated closed system, and since mass is just another form of energy, then mass would be conserved in a realtavistic situation right?
 
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I'm not sure what SR and mass have to do with each other but certainly if you use E=mc^2 you are specifically saying that mass does NOT have to be conserved because you can turn it into energy.
 
But being that energy is neither created nor destoryed would transformation of the Mass efect the amounnt of mass you have because I would think it would remain constant?
 
DODGEVIPER13 said:
But being that energy is neither created nor destoryed would transformation of the Mass efect the amounnt of mass you have because I would think it would remain constant?

Huh ?

Energy is created and mass is destroyed. How do you think an atom bomb works?

EDIT: perhaps a more pertinent question rather than one about the bomb would be, what do you think E=mc^2 MEANS ?
 
Total Energy = (Rest Mass)(Speed of light in a vacumm)^2. and I believe it states the equivalence between energy and mass.
 
DODGEVIPER13 said:
Total Energy = (Rest Mass)(Speed of light in a vacumm)^2. and I believe it states the equivalence between energy and mass.

Right. Which means mass is NOT conserved. Doesn't that answer your question?
 
yes thanks
 
"mass-energy", of course, is conserved.
 
thanks Halls so it is conserved
 
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DODGEVIPER13 said:
thanks Halls so it is conserved

And what do you mean by "it". Your original question was "is mass conserved". The answer to that is NO, so if the above refers to mass, then NO, it is not conserved.

You seem to have some need to hear that mass is conserved. It isn't. As Ivy said, mass-energy IS conserved.
 
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You should also realize that when physicists refer to mass, they're talking about the rest or invariant mass of an object.

Journalists and other laypersons have an affinity for the idea of relativistic mass because it sounds cool to say the mass of an object changes with its speed. Relativistic mass, however, is really just the relativistic energy of the object divided by the constant c2, so you might as well just talk about the object's energy instead of its (relativistic) mass. It just doesn't sound as cool to say that an object's energy increases as it speeds up.
 

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