Is My Calculation of the Photon State in a Mach-Zehnder Interferometer Correct?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of photon states in a Mach-Zehnder interferometer, focusing on the mathematical workings and interpretations of the results. Participants explore the implications of their calculations and the conflicting information from various sources, including videos and textbooks.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation of the photon state, suggesting that the upper path is guaranteed to be the only path unless a measurement is made.
  • Another participant expresses confusion, referencing a video that indicates the upper detector will not register photons, while the lower detector will.
  • Several participants mention conflicting information from different sources, including a book and a video, regarding which detector registers photons.
  • A participant introduces the concept of phase difference in the interferometer, providing formulas for the probabilities of detection at each detector based on this phase difference.
  • There is a discussion about the simplification of concepts by one source compared to the more complex mathematical approach presented by another, leading to further confusion.

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Participants express confusion and disagreement regarding the correct interpretation of the photon detection probabilities and the implications of their calculations. Multiple competing views remain, and the discussion is unresolved.

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Participants note the dependence on different interpretations and sources, leading to uncertainty about the correct answers. There are unresolved aspects regarding the phase difference and its impact on detection probabilities.

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Hey

I been looking at the maths at a specific setup of a interferometer (see image).

This is my workings out and i seem to get the correct answer but have i missed out any thing or misunderstood the workings out and just happened to get lucky with my answer?

Legend:
= ½
Upper/Lower = Path of beam in image represented as lower and upper half of image.

Photon State:
|upper> = s*|upper> + s*|lower>

Super position:
s(s|upper> + s|lower>) + s(s|upper> - s|lower>)

Becomes:
(s² + s²)*|upper> + (s² - s²)*|lower>

Lower becomes canceled out.

So upper path is all that's left:
2*s²|upper>

Meaning its 100% guaranteed to be in upper path unless a measurement is made?
 

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Yeah, I'm confused too. I just deleted my previous post. Watched the video where you must have got the information for your original post from.

My book is definitely saying if the source is where the one is in your image, then detector 1 (upper) won't register photons. Detector 2 (the one on the far right) will.
 
The video is on my PC can't upload it to show you etc. But the video explains how the beam splitter reverses the lower wave and so it doesn't reach the lower photon detector due to interference. Which is now confusing...
 
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Yup, I have the video you're speaking of, and watched the relevant area after posting, but before I saw your new post.
 
StevieTNZ said:
Yeah, I'm confused too. I just deleted my previous post. Watched the video where you must have got the information for your original post from.

My book is definitely saying if the source is where the one is in your image, then detector 1 (upper) won't register photons. Detector 2 (the one on the far right) will.

there's a book with these videos or a different book ? So I am confused which is the right answer then if they say different things.
 
sirchick said:
there's a book with these videos or a different book ? So I am confused which is the right answer then if they say different things.

Different book. I am also wondering which is telling the right answer.
 
Ben Schumacher simplified it for us to understand the concept although edgardo has now over complicated it which has confused me more as the maths looks totally different to how the lecture shows it =/

The issue is which beam based on ben's design is correct =/ because we have seen two different answers from two different sources.
 
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