Is my understanding of Einstein right?

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The discussion revolves around the understanding of Albert Einstein's contributions to physics, particularly in relation to Quantum Mechanics and his attempts to unify it with Relativity. Participants reflect on a PBS documentary that critiques Einstein's legacy and explore the complexities of his views and the criticisms he faced.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their experience with a documentary that presents a critical view of Einstein, suggesting he struggled to unify Relativity and Quantum Mechanics.
  • Another participant argues that the documentary's portrayal is flawed, claiming that critics often lack understanding of the debates Einstein engaged in with other physicists.
  • A suggestion is made to read a biography of Einstein to gain a deeper understanding of his contributions and the context of his work.
  • It is noted that Einstein had a significant impact on Quantum Mechanics and that criticisms of him often overlook his achievements.
  • One participant posits that Einstein was open to reconsidering his views when faced with new evidence, implying he might have adapted his thinking had he lived longer to witness developments like Bell's theorem.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of criticisms directed at Einstein, particularly regarding his failure to unify the two fields, as no one has succeeded in doing so since.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of the documentary's criticisms of Einstein. While some defend Einstein's legacy and contributions, others highlight the documentary's critical stance, leading to an unresolved debate about his impact and the nature of his work in relation to Quantum Mechanics.

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Participants reference various sources and suggest further reading to provide context for Einstein's work and the criticisms he faced, indicating that the discussion is informed by historical debates and interpretations of his contributions.

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My background is Mathematics. I'm thinking about learning Physics as a hobby. I know a little Physics from courses and research I did in college. I rented from the public library a few weeks ago a PBS documentary on Einstein because I wanted to have a basic idea of his life and theories. The video was very critical of Einstein. It said that shortly before Einstein died, Quantum Mechanics had become a popular theory and Einstein had desperately tried to unify the field of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics but had failed to do so. They said that if Einstein was alive today to see Quantum Mechanics, he might've changed his mind about many things.
 
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Such documentary are often scripted by illiterate people who have no knowledge and even less understanding of the debates Einstein had on these questions with prominent physicists of that time. Remember also that Einstein won the Nobel price for its contribution to quantum mechanics.

Have a read at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr–Einstein_debates

and then switch to the hard side for which you are well prepared.
 
Or read a good biography of Einstein: "Subtle Is the Lord: The Science and the Life of Albert Einstein" by Abraham Pais.
 
Einstein critics

No one has had more critics than Einstein. People are still trying to prove him wrong on various points. The thing about critics is they criticize.
With a degree in math, you are well prepared to learn physics. Ordinary and partial differential equations, vector analysis, some sadistics(sic), form the basics, then tensors for general relativity.
Bits and pieces of other stuff are usually worked into the physics courses, same for tensors.
 
Einstein had a huge impact on quantum mechanics. Do yourself a favor and stop taking those videos seriously.
 
Jamin2112 said:
They said that if Einstein were alive today to see Quantum Mechanics, he might've changed his mind about many things.
Einstein's track record for reconsidering when presented with new data/results that challenged his thinking was very good. So it's quite likely that if he had lived to see some of these new developments, he would have had incorporated them into his thinking, and we'd all have been the richer for it.

If there is one development that I really wish Einstein had lived to see (and he only missed by a few years) it would be Bell's theorem.

he video was very critical of Einstein. It said that ... Einstein had desperately tried to unify the field of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics but had failed to do so.
And so far no one else has succeeded either, so I don't find that criticism especially compelling. It never ceases to amaze me that Einstein is so often criticized for not achieving more by people who have achieved far less.
 

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