MHB Is \( n! > 2^n \) for \( n \ge 4 \)?

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Prove $n! > 2^n$ for $n\ge4$
ok well the only thing I know to do is just try some numbers

$n=4, \quad 4\cdot3\cdot2\cdot1=24 \quad 2^4=32 \quad \therefore 32\ge24$
$n=5, \quad 5\cdot4\cdot3\cdot2\cdot1=120 \quad 2^5=32 \quad \therefore 120\ge32$

not sure just what the proof would be and looks like it must just be intergers

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karush said:
$\tiny{2.3.3}$
Prove $n! > 2^n$ for $n\ge4$
ok well the only thing I know to do is just try some numbers

$n=4, \quad 4\cdot3\cdot2\cdot1=24 \quad 2^4=32 \quad \therefore 32\ge24$
$n=5, \quad 5\cdot4\cdot3\cdot2\cdot1=120 \quad 2^5=32 \quad \therefore 120\ge32$

not sure just what the proof would be and looks like it must just be intergers

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Are you allowed to use induction? Let k be the lowest integer such that [math]k! > 2^k[/math]. Then show that [math](k + 1)! > 2^{k + 1}[/math]

-Dan
 
Re: aa2.3.3 Prove n! > 2^n for n\ge4

topsquark said:
Are you allowed to use induction? Let k be the lowest integer such that [math]k! > 2^k[/math]. Then show that [math](k + 1)! > 2^{k + 1}[/math]

-Dan

I thot that is what i did?

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You showed a couple of examples which show a definite trend but didn't give an actual proof. This is a simple induction proof and basically copies what you have shown.

-Dan
 
Since $n\ge4=2^2$,
$$n!\ =\ \underbrace{n}_{\ge2^2} \cdot \underbrace{(n-1)}_{>2} \cdot \cdots \cdot \underbrace{3}_{>2} \cdot \underbrace{2}_{\ge2} \cdot 1\ >\ 2^n.$$
 
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