Is Ohmic Resistance Applicable to Diodes?

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This discussion centers on the applicability of ohmic resistance to diodes, particularly in forward bias mode. Participants assert that while the Drude model describes ohmic resistance in metals, it does not universally apply to non-linear materials like diodes. The depletion layer in a pn junction diode remains narrow during forward bias, allowing for conduction, but the behavior diverges from ohmic devices due to the influence of charge carriers and the non-constant resistance observed beyond the knee voltage of approximately 0.7V. The free electron model is suggested as a more accurate representation of electron behavior in semiconductors.

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Well I was just wondering how ohmic resistance works in a diode . I mean let's take forward bias mode.In forward bias mode electrons are diffused from the n type region to the p type region.The depletion layer still exists but is very narrow.So according to Drude model of ohmic resistance electrons bump into atoms of the resistor and lose all their momentum during the movement of them opposite of the battery voltage.But in a pn junction diode those atoms are basically negatively charged because the boron atoms in the depletion layer are negatively charged . So how does this work?
 
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Ohmic Resistance is not universal. It applies in Metals but you can’t expect to find it in all (non-linear) materials.
 
Im a sure drude model is correct for all ohmic resistances and a diode has ohmic resistance even in forward bias.
 
CaptainMarvel1899 said:
Im a sure drude model is correct for all ohmic resistances and a diode has ohmic resistance even in forward bias.
If you're sure, then what is the point of this thread?
 
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The B- ions are negatively charged so I ask if this will affect somehow.
 
Once the depletion region is closed the diode behaves similar to a conductor. That is why you must put a current limiting resistor in the circuit.
 
That is why a diode is different than a regular ohmic device. The dopants are charge carriers making the material conductive not resistive.
 
Drude model also is correct for conductors.The depletion region isn't disappeared it get very narrow.
 
CaptainMarvel1899 said:
Well I was just wondering how ohmic resistance works in a diode . I mean let's take forward bias mode.In forward bias mode electrons are diffused from the n type region to the p type region.The depletion layer still exists but is very narrow.So according to Drude model of ohmic resistance electrons bump into atoms of the resistor and lose all their momentum during the movement of them opposite of the battery voltage.But in a pn junction diode those atoms are basically negatively charged because the boron atoms in the depletion layer are negatively charged . So how does this work?

The Drude model predates quantum mechanics and the understanding of how particles behave at the atomic and subatomic scale. What you really want to look at is the free electron model. In this model, there are relatively few ion-electron collisions. The mean free path of an electron is influenced more by lattice defects, impurities, and thermal fluctuations and how these influence the electric potential and band structure of the local area.
 
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When I was a student 60 years ago we were taught the Drude model but let's look at this free electron model.

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osilmag said:
That is why a diode is different than a regular ohmic device. The dopants are charge carriers making the material conductive not resistive.
The term 'Ohmic' refers to a constant ration between PD and Current - in my experience. A diode doesn't behave like that. If you insist, you can measure the PD and the Current for one value of Current and you could assign a value of R (V/I) but that R will not be constant so it doesn't mean much. The R, measured this way will drop rapidly, once the 'knee' voltage of around 0.7V is exceeded.
 

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