Undergrad Is Relativity a Complete Theory? Investigating Math Formulation

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The discussion centers on whether relativity is a complete theory regarding its mathematical formulation, questioning if new mathematical tools are necessary for its understanding. Participants argue that the question may not be well-posed, suggesting that classical covariant electrodynamics could indicate incompleteness. The need for further investigation into the mathematical aspects of relativity is emphasized, with a focus on the role of mathematicians and physicists in determining the convenience of new additions. The conversation also touches on the implications of needing to learn more mathematics to grasp potential advancements in the theory. Ultimately, the completeness of relativity remains an open question, inviting ongoing exploration.
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Is it complete in the sense that there's nothing further to investigate in terms of its mathematical formulation?

I mean, in the sense that we don't need to introduce new mathematical tools or review existing ones for the theory.
 
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How could the answer to that question be determined?
 
Dale said:
How could the answer to that question be determined?
By a good mathematician or physicist analyzing and determining whether new additions are convenient?
 
As @Dale said, the question isn't well-posed. That said, if you regard classical (i.e., non-quantum) covariant electrodynamics as part of "relativity," then perhaps the answer is no.
 
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kent davidge said:
By a good mathematician or physicist analyzing and determining whether new additions are convenient?

How many such attempts would need to be made before you would say their results are definitive--either relativity is definitely complete or definitely not?
 
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Is it complete in the sense that there's nothing further to investigate in terms of its mathematical formulation?

I mean, in the sense that we don't need to introduce new mathematical tools or review existing ones for the theory.
Why? Are you worried that you might need to learn more maths.
 
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kent davidge said:
Is it complete in the sense that there's nothing further to investigate in terms of its mathematical formulation?

I mean, in the sense that we don't need to introduce new mathematical tools or review existing ones for the theory.

Careful.

From the section "Mathematical relativity" in the final chapter "Next steps" of the very nice, very short, new book "General Relativity: A Concise Introduction" by Steven Carlip.

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