Is Russell Crowe Too Old to Play Young Robin Hood?

[SticksandStones]

Personally I would want a film that sticks to the earliest known version.

I don't like the phenomenon of stories that get embellished over time. Take vampires. A vampire movie should stick to the original folk tale of the strigoi, or, if you're talking Dracula, should be a biography of Vlad Dracul. Instead, the current trend is to make the hottest vampire.

I can't imagine anything more boring!

As for Russel Crowe: Meh. I'd rather Daniel Craig. That'd be awesome.

 

[Frame Dragger]

I had to look up "kappa":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_(folklore)

I suppose a good Japanese film maker could make a better strigoi movie than a Western director. When I saw Throne of Blood I felt it was somehow more faithful to Shakespeare than any western film of MacBeth I ever saw, despite the paradox that Shakespeare without the language can't be Shakespeare.

Shakespeare should probably have written Robin Hood. Then there's be a definitive version. I wonder if he ever considered it.

Mmmm, that would be nice. Given that he touched on everything from history to faeries, I'm sure it must have crossed his mind. Perhaps it wasn't popular at the time?

 

[zoobyshoe]

I can't imagine anything more boring!

More boring than what?

 

[zoobyshoe]

Mmmm, that would be nice. Given that he touched on everything from history to faeries, I'm sure it must have crossed his mind. Perhaps it wasn't popular at the time?

Might have been too dangerous a subject: take from the rich, give to the poor. All Bill's patrons were wealthy.

 

[lisab]

I like your style zooby! Maybe toss in a Kappa or two for good measure, the Japanese really know how to scare the living crap out of a person. Hellsing isn't bad either... anything based on that bawdy psychotic Vlad Ţepeş (Dracul/Impaler). I particularly enjoyed his notion of an inauguration. :evil:

If you're going to throw in a couple Kappas, you've got to resurrect Bruce Lee and put him in there too. Let's go all the way over the top!

 

[Frame Dragger]

More boring than what?

I think he may be a fan of "The brooding vampire", a la Twilight and such junk. "Oh baby, I love you, but I am just SO emo!" "Oh vampire baby, I love you, but I'm so emo too!" *simultaneously* "Lets sulk for the next 90 minutes!"

*places gun barrel in mouth*

 

[Frame Dragger]

If you're going to throw in a couple Kappas, you've got to resurrect Bruce Lee and put him in there too. Let's go all the way over the top!

Oh that would be too good. Still, a being that is limited to a pond is probably not the most terrifying thing out there.

Personally, the recorded history of Vlad Ţepeş is terrifying enough! The man made Saddam Hussein look like a dear old fellow.

Might have been too dangerous a subject: take from the rich, give to the poor. All Bill's patrons were wealthy.

Good point, and in a time when a knife in the dark was hardly unheard of... probably the smart choice. Old Billy got away with plenty, but I don't think the whole story of Robin Hood could have flown under that radar.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Good point, and in a time when a knife in the dark was hardly unheard of... probably the smart choice. Old Billy got away with plenty, but I don't think the whole story of Robin Hood could have flown under that radar.

Not unless he made him a half-villain, and wrote in a bad ending for him with the triumph of aristocratically administered law and order. Wouldn't be the same Robin Hood.

 

[Frame Dragger]

Not unless he made him a half-villain, and wrote in a bad ending for him with the triumph of aristocratically administered law and order. Wouldn't be the same Robin Hood.

Too true, and I don't think that Shakespeare would do that to literature unless he had to.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Miss Evo wants Robin Hood to be a hottie, above all other considerations.

I wonder if the overall drift of all of these embellished-over-time stories is always toward some core romantic tale, as embodied in the popular Romance Novel. Seems like it.

 

[BobG]

Oh god I completely forgot about this movie. This is another GREAT movie... it was kinda long but WELL WORTH IT!

This just makes me want to go and make a list of epic movies with Russell 'the Great' Crowe ()

Gladiator!
A Beautiful Mind
Cinderella Man
Master and Commander
State of Play
Body of Lies
American Gangster

I don't think I know of any other movies... I'm pretty sure all of these were made after Gladiator in 2000 so I guess 2000 was just his breakout year .

Cindarella Man was a great movie, too. It stayed true to the real story of James Braddock, who was one of the great stories of boxing. The movie stopped with the Braddock-Baer fight, but the post-fight life of both fighters was kind of interesting.

Braddock really was a journeyman fighter at that point and was deservedly a huge underdog against Max Baer. He kept putting off defending his title until he got the right deal since he didn't have much chance of winning against a top notch boxer. He finally gave Joe Louis the title shot two years later (instead of Max Schmeling who probably deserved it more at that point) in return for 10% of Louis's gross for the next 10 years. The fact that Schmeling was from Nazi Germany and that a black Joe Louis would never get a title shot if Schmeling were champion helped Braddock's bargaining position a lot. He wound up getting a lot more money from Louis's fights than he ever did from his own.

And, of course, Max Baer had a son that was famous in his own right. Max Baer, Jr was Jethro Bodine on the Beverly Hillbillies.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I have been told I look like Russel Crowe. Now I know that Evo thinks I am ugly. :-(

What are you talking about? First most of the supposed atrocities performed by Vlad Ţepeş were pretty common at the time. Second most of his supposed atrocities are legends spreed by his enemies. Third Vlad Ţepeş didn't kill anybody without a pretty good reason by the standards of his day. Also I don't remember anything about chemical and biological weapons.

Actually I think that there was a Vlad Tepes movie a while back on HBO or Showtime. Very sensationalized of course with him actually being a vampire who made a pact with the devil or some such.

 

[bp_psy]

I have been told I look like Russel Crowe. Now I know that Evo thinks I am ugly. :-(Actually I think that there was a Vlad Tepes movie a while back on HBO or Showtime. Very sensationalized of course with him actually being a vampire who made a pact with the devil or some such.

You managed to quote me before I deleted my post. Recently there have been a lot of movies and so called documentaries about him.I think they are a result of the interest created by the hot vampire phenomena you mention. One more thing the story of Dracula begins and ends with Bram Stoker's novel. There is no real reason to connect Vlad Tepes with Dracula since the novel does not intend to make such connection.

 

[zoobyshoe]

One more thing the story of Dracula begins and ends with Bram Stoker's novel. There is no real reason to connect Vlad Tepes with Dracula since the novel does not intend to make such connection.

The allusions to Vlad are obvious, and it's clear he was a major source of grounding for the character. The main connection is obviously the name and noble blood, country of origin. Stoker took the name "Dracula" for his character from Vlad III after reading Romanian history and there is every chance he came across the stories of Vlad Dracula drinking the blood of killed enemies from goblets, which dovetails perfectly with the vampire concept. He also put Dracula's castle in Transylvania where Vlad had one. The connection is not that he's proposing Vlad came back after death as a vampire, the connection is that he took important elements from Vlad to enrich his character.

 

[leroyjenkens]

Unless you have a prejudice, you'll probably like him as Robin Hood at the most halfway through the movie.

Although I see someone like Orlando Bloom looking more like I think Robin Hood would look like, Russel Crowe is a better actor.

I also didn't like Hugh Jackman as Wolverine when I first saw him, but it grew on me.

 

[Lacy33]

I was waiting for someone to say "Orlando Bloom." That's about as hot as I can take it. Don't care what he acts like. Let another actor carry him. We all know the story. There is a Robin Hood in us all.

 

[EnumaElish]

I also didn't like Hugh Jackman as Wolverine when I first saw him, but it grew on me.

Come to think of it, he'd have been a good fit for Robin Hood, IMO.

 

[Evo]

Rusell Crowe should have been cast as the Sheriff of Nottingham.

 

[ViewsofMars]

Ewwwww.

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Evo, I personally drop to my knees, figeratively speaking, whenever I see a good looking man with a beard. I think he likes camping too! :!) I like the rustic look on a man when playing around outdoors. As far as Russel Crowe as Robin Hood, I think the Crowe is a bit old. lol!

I do like archery. As a woman I haven't taken that up for a while. I never aim at animals.

 

[mheslep]

Ewwwww.

Though your taste is beyond question, there are a few ladies that hold differing opinions of Maximus Gladiator, or maybe they like Ewwwww. Short list:

Jodie Foster
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Erica Baxter
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Meg Ryan
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Peta Wilson
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Jennifer Connelly
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Nicole Kidman
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Danielle Spencer
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[Astronuc]

Rusell Crowe should have been cast as the Sheriff of Nottingham.

Yes - that would fit. Evo should be casting director.

 

[fuzzyfelt]

I wonder what the usual life span was in the C12th. I had an idea it was around 35 years or so.

 

[leroyjenkens]

I wonder what the usual life span was in the C12th. I had an idea it was around 35 years or so.

Some countries in Africa have an average life span of about 35 years now.

 

[fuzzyfelt]

Sorry, I meant where the story is set, and was thinking that Russell Crowe, born in 1964, is probably too old, but I'm not sure.

 

[Evo]

I wonder what the usual life span was in the C12th. I had an idea it was around 35 years or so.

Especially if you're living as an outlaw in the woods without shelter or a means of a stable diet. Although Crowe looks a bit overfed for the part.

 

[Lisa!]

Maybe they want to decrease the popularity of Robin Hood since he was against authority!

Rusell Crowe should have been cast as the Sheriff of Nottingham.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I've been watching the previews more closely due to this thread. I have gotten the impression the point of this film is to make a "man's" Robin Hood movie. They are being inspired by Braveheart and Gladiator and The Seven Samurai and not the traditional Robin Hood film. It's a war movie, it looks like, aimed at a male audience.

 

[rewebster]

The previews look almost like they could be ads for a video game--which I wouldn't doubt has been made already.

yeah, if they want more women to go see it, the previews should show more of the damsel in distress.

 

[leroyjenkens]

Sorry, I meant where the story is set, and was thinking that Russell Crowe, born in 1964, is probably too old, but I'm not sure.

Yeah I know what you meant. Lots of people lived a lot longer than 35 years though. Like into their 70's.

They are being inspired by Braveheart and Gladiator and The Seven Samurai and not the traditional Robin Hood film. It's a war movie, it looks like, aimed at a male audience.

They turned it into an epic.
I like the old story of the archery contest and all that stuff. I wonder if they'll have that in this one.

 

[Evo]

I've been watching the previews more closely due to this thread. I have gotten the impression the point of this film is to make a "man's" Robin Hood movie. They are being inspired by Braveheart and Gladiator and The Seven Samurai and not the traditional Robin Hood film. It's a war movie, it looks like, aimed at a male audience.

He looks like a neanderthal in that picture I posted.

The original Robin Hood lived in Sherwood Forest, he was a bandit that robbed rich people. He wasn't in the army, he didn't go on a crusade, he didn't attack castles with his band of "merry men".