Is Science Fiction Just Fantasy or Could It Be Real?

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This discussion centers on the distinction between science fiction and fantasy, specifically examining the concept of "flame" and "burn" as metaphors for passion and reality. Participants reference the biblical burning bush and the fire dress from "The Hunger Games" to illustrate how flames can exist without causing harm. The conversation emphasizes that definitions shape our understanding of these concepts, while also dismissing the notion that "The Hunger Games" represents real phenomena. The discussion concludes that while science fiction explores possibilities, it remains distinct from actual science.

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What's that flame in the back of Katniss that doesn't really burn? What flames can't burn?
 
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Passion is a flame that does not burn. :)

The trick with these things is to define what you mean by "flame" and "burn" ... by definition, physical combustion means that something has to burn ... but it just does not have to be the thing you expect.

The biblical burning bush burns without being consumed by the fire[1] and this is what is usually meant and that is what is meant in the Hunger Games fire dress.

You can also firewalk without getting burned.

Perfectly normal flames do not have to burn you.
So it all boils down to definitions and desired effects.

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[1] Dictamnus Alexander and Zhenia Fleisher note that:
Intermittently, under yet unclear conditions, the plant excretes such a vast amount of volatiles that lighting a match near the flowers and seedpods causes the plant to be enveloped by flame. This flame quickly extinguishes without injury to the plant.

... probably not miraculous enough for christians though.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Passion is a flame that does not burn. :)

The trick with these things is to define what you mean by "flame" and "burn" ... by definition, physical combustion means that something has to burn ... but it just does not have to be the thing you expect.

The biblical burning bush burns without being consumed by the fire[1] and this is what is usually meant and that is what is meant in the Hunger Games fire dress.

You can also firewalk without getting burned.

Perfectly normal flames do not have to burn you.
So it all boils down to definitions and desired effects.

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[1] Dictamnus Alexander and Zhenia Fleisher note that:
Intermittently, under yet unclear conditions, the plant excretes such a vast amount of volatiles that lighting a match near the flowers and seedpods causes the plant to be enveloped by flame. This flame quickly extinguishes without injury to the plant.

... probably not miraculous enough for christians though.

so how does the fire dress work? it's like cold fire.. maybe akin to cold fusion?
 
<sigh> Hunger Games is fiction. It is not real.
Did they put the dress in the movie? Are you asking how the special effect was done?

Note: cold fusion is not all that cold ... it is just less than millions of degrees.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
<sigh> Hunger Games is fiction. It is not real.
Did they put the dress in the movie? Are you asking how the special effect was done?

Note: cold fusion is not all that cold ... it is just less than millions of degrees.

But in Many Worlds of Quantum.. anything that can happen will happen and is happening. so somewhere out there it happens
 
rodsika said:
But in Many Worlds of Quantum.. anything that can happen will happen and is happening. so somewhere out there it happens

This forum is about science fiction, not pseudoscience. If you want to argue about science fiction and fantasy, then you are welcome to. But if you want to argue that science fiction is real in some sense, then this forum is not the place for it.

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