Is \sum_5^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2} = \sum_1^\infty \frac{1}{n^2} Legal?

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The discussion revolves around the legality of manipulating infinite series, specifically comparing the series \(\sum_5^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2}\) and \(\sum_1^\infty \frac{1}{n^2}\). Participants are examining whether these two series can be considered equivalent.

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  • Participants explore the equivalence of the two series and discuss the implications of changing dummy variables within the summation. There is an attempt to formalize the reasoning behind the manipulation of the series.

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Some participants express agreement on the equivalence of the series, while others provide a more detailed derivation to support their claims. The discussion includes various interpretations of the series and the validity of the transformations applied.

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There is an emphasis on the nature of dummy variables in summations and how they can be interchanged without affecting the outcome of the series. The discussion does not resolve the legality of the manipulation but rather explores the reasoning behind it.

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I just wanted to check that this was legal.

[itex]\sum_5^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2} = \sum_1^\infty \frac{1}{n^2}[/itex] ?
 
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Sure it is. They are the same series, aren't they?
 
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A slightly more formal derivation would be:
[tex]\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2}[/tex]
Let i= n- 4. Then [itex](n-4)^2= i^3[/itex] and when n= 5, i= 5- 4= 1. Of course, i= n-4 goes to infinity as n goes to infinity so
[tex]\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2}= \sum_{i=1}^\infty \frac{1}{i^2}[/tex]

But both "n" and "i" are "dummy" variables- the final sum does not involve either- so we can change them at will. Changing "i" to "n" in the last sum,
[tex]\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2}= \sum_{i=n}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2}[/tex]

The crucial point is that, as Dick said, "they are the same sequence":
[tex]\sum_{n=5}^\infty \frac{1}{(n-4)^2}+ \frac{1}{(5-4)^2}+ \frac{1}{(6-4)^2}+ \frac{1}{(7- 4)^2}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot= 1+ \frac{1}{4}+ \frac{1}{9}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot[/tex]
[tex]\sum_{n= 1}^\infty \frac{1}{n^2}= \frac{1}{1^2}+ \frac{1}{2^2}+ \frac{1}{3^2}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot= 1+ \frac{1}{4}+ \frac{1}{9}+ \cdot\cdot\cdot[/tex]
 

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